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You can in fact get these from Ancient Relics. It is however excessively rare.
I was able to get some from the ancient relic.
The Dragonscale vase (Used to obtain Suja Textiles in crafting Seju Sash a) is a random gathering item that cannot be found in the ancient relics special node, it is obtained randomly after gatherers return with goods, there will be a chance to receive this item as a gathered item from Apar within the season of Fallow, just rest for a few days at a time costing 300 Guild Points with each rest.