yelan at least can do her best role off field, enable double hydro, can go to the other team when your xq is taken by different team.

her bis set, emblem literally screams "play me as burst dps" and she must be onfield to do that.

hyperbloom has kuki shinobu. clorinde is coming soon and might beat raiden at some teams.

raiden is only bis for her own c2 hypercarry team lets be real. and only her dedicated mains gonna bother themselves getting her to c2 to make her viable carry. rational isnt the best national variation. dendro teams and taser prefer fischl-miko.

>>702 oz is a better battery tho. even sucrose national >>> rational. sucrose, fischl and kuki shinobu are all 4* who make the team better when you use them instead of raiden. why bother wasting your 50/50 to a limited 5* electro when the the cheaper easier to obtain 4* produce better result?

>>695 honestly I hope so too, this furina slander is getting ridiculous, if you don’t like her don’t pull but she is one of the strongest supports in game wether they want to admit it or not.

>>672 yelan and xinqgiu have the same role. Yes a agree that yelan has amazing value, I was debating wether to put her or neuvillette foe n.5 but once again, she fights for the same role and teams as xingqiu unlike raiden who doesn’t really fight for any roles (except maybe hyperbloom) but she is so versatile and strong can fit into any team where you want an electro while also being a battery. Post furina won’t really matter if you don’t have furina

>>700 *50%

>>684 honestly though, at least 5 of the dps we have even prefer a shielder over a healer so I’d say she is tied with zhongli in terms of value hence why I don’t want to say she is in the top 5 best characters to pull.

>>689 did you not read what I said? She is in the top 5 because she is he most versatile electro not because she’s the BiS for every situation. She could do what fiscal, yae and kuki can do decently and fits into a lot of roles you want her to in teams you need and electro sub dps or battery. Her rational is still pretty strong and I’ve seen many clear with it even today. Would you rather have to build a different electro unit for every situation? Yelan and xingiqu have the same role.

>>697

>>696

>>695 Well sure if them doing that can help you sleep at night.

I hope someday mods finally come here and wipe all this toxic shit to oblivion. It looks really disgusting by now. Shameless.

Anyways good to know Hutao and Furina fans are simply the same people 🤭🎣

>>688 In denial? lol. She was a confirmed to be 4* by multiple sources like Hunter, Lumie etc. Lumie who leaked her gameplay has also said multiple times that she was mentioned as a 4* in game files. https://imgur.com/a/kULzb3W

>>687 you're rude, you have zero proof to your statements about 'brattiness' and still trying to look superior. You're really cringe person here, not me or someone else who likes the REAL character's story.

The people without good taste always the same.

>>681 rational is cope cuz vape with anemo vv is alwats far better. aggravate quicken prefers fischl-miko more. oz has faster electro app (in fact oz is the fastest elemental applicator in the game). miko also has better dmg. her hyperbloom team is replaceable by a 4* kuki shinobu who acts as both the healer and a hyperbloom dps. so yea just like yelan, raiden is also replaceable by a 4* :)