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hyperbloom was broken on release, during sumeru patch it was the best comp, until fontaine era, then just now we got the updated hyperbloom thats on par with the top DPS rn.
Wtf, this site is trash, how can You put navia in s and Hu tao in A just because navia is the strongest geo character when You have Hu tao dealing more dmg then her like make it make sense
Serious question, why did devs let Lauma hyperbloom outdps Flins premium team? This makes 0 sense. She’s not even a dps and she uses much more accessible units to do that
That seems reasonable, thanks for the serious reply.
Well, the most ironic thing is that his team is not the third strongest, the third strongest team in the game rn is Lauma hyperbloom (with Raiden). And that’s what makes him being dependent on Ineffa much more worse than Skirk being dependent on Escoffier, at least Skirk is firmly the second best team in the game. If Varesa isn’t SS tier on this site, neither is Flins 100%, he’s much more restricted than her and less versatile while having pretty much the same results as Varesa
u can be a DPS even when off field just like in any national team. People just decided electro as the one dealing the most DPS in hyperbloom since they are the one triggering thats why u full em on them. Even on any gcsim regarding hyperbloom put kuki as dealing the most DPS in the team.
Since Lauma is the on field character in both of those teams would that make Lauma the dps and Kuki/Raiden sub-dps? Even though Kuki/Raiden are responsible for triggering most of the damage you are using their off field abilities not their on field ones (ex. only using Raiden's elemental skill but not her burst or normal attacks). Or maybe its a team of 4 sub-dps? Just not sure if dps vs sub-dps is determined by damage output or by how the team is played.
doesnt matter fact is kuki or raiden is needed for hyperbloom teams. Your not seeing a mavuika team hit 140k DPS if you remove citlali, does that mean mavuika's 140k dps achievement is possible without citlali? Every character in a team has a purpose. And for any hyperbloom teams, electro is necessary, it just happens that raiden is the best option for it.
Bro it's not her achievement, labooba does the job
not really some guy made a tier list in the comments here awhile ago and the criteria was 110k+ is the SS tier
Kuki is a SS tier DPS now since her team is doing 105k DPS :)
Flins team is 3rd strongest team (after skirk). But he has the exact same problem as skirk - he becomes literal trash without ineffa, just like she does without escoffier. Now this is gonna happen to all new characters btw. Also Labooba is a support for a DPS character that will release in 6.1.
will flins be SS tier on release hmm what are Ur predictions on where game8 will put him
fk no there's a chance Bina could be a support with healing so waste of primos
or get Lauma at C1, instead of practice ;)
The thing is bobby, everyone saw it coming. Since natlan had released, powercreep had been rising. Now all the new released DPS will be in S+, and all supports in SS. That way, old ones will lose their value. Say hi to honkai star rail.
gotta practice more, aint my fault if u keep dying, as if the old raiden hyperbloom (nahida, xq, yelan) didnt exist before and couldn't sustain, its literally the same u just swap nahida, xq sustain is enough for the team. If u have skill issue then learn the game I guess.
this team isn't sustainable if you aren't literally dodge everything
And if u say "but you can just play lauma with nefer in the future so I just ditch raiden" Well varesa is the same thing "Since mavuika is best in varesa team surely just ditching varesa and running a DPS mavuika and doing 140k DPS is not better right?" At least for raiden the gap isn't as big when swapping raiden to nefer since nefer is around 120k DPS so not a big gap in dps whereas varesa lmao, from varesa carry to mavuika carry is a 110k DPS to 140k DPS gap what a trade.
I'll post the proof again incase the varesa mains become delulu again