>>766 goat? what a joke. she cant even beat some liyuean spy yelan 🤣

>>766 At C0 Charlotte is enough, btw, you don't need five star healers specifically, just some strong team-wide healer.

C0/C1 for support C2 for sub dps C6 for main dps At C0 its hard to gather fan if don't have god tier healer At C2 her pet can deal more than 50k dmg At C6 she become GOAT

Xingqiu: low damage, high appilication, interruption resistance, force using NAs Yelan: mid damage, mid application, single target dmg% bonus, force using NAs Furina: high damage, low application, teamwide dmg% bonus, force using healer choose whatever suit your party most.

If you think Furina is 'bad' because of that, because she's not making previous characters obsolete, then you know nothing about game mechanics and I'm glad the devs not listening to you.

>>762 exactly. Yelan is mostly about strong hydro application (although not XQ's level of strength). She has nice buff as addition too, but her main role is off-field damage with almost stable hydro status. Furina, on the other side, has best buff to DMG% in the game and Yelan's level of her own damage. But, for the sake of balance, her hydro application isn't good enough. It was made this way to avoid blatant powercreep of previous hydro characters, obviously.

>>760 yelan is better if your looking for another hydro sub dps , Furina has a different role and is better if your looking for a buffer or just want a versatile character in general

>>754 I can I agree with that list though I think nahida and Kazuha can be interchangeable

>>759 so thats mean furina is not good support alone? I guess its true, Kazuha and Nahida will always better than furina, even Yelan is better lol

>>757 CR dont need any offensive buffing. All she need is just CC and teamwide heal and maybe some infusion for vaping. Stick that kit with Furina and we have better support duo than the cringe circle impact kazuha and bennett

>>757 MC = EM. I'm sorry, forgot to translate this part from Russian. :D

>>756 I love Furina too, but let's be honest, Kazuha isn't overrated. Yeah, his fans are disgusting sometimes, but as a character he is amazing, the best anemo in the game, has convenient CC, really simple in building (just slap all MC pieces from anemo set you can get). In addition to all this facts, he has beautiful buff to elemental DMG%, something that CR most probably won't get. Also there's a chance that CR will be new Xiao support. If so, then Kazuha will stay with us for awhile again.

Praying mommy CR will have CC, teamwide heal and infusion like jean sunfire so we can have another great combo Furina and CR instead of this overrated shitty kazuha "using Furina meaning no CC" bla bla

Nahida is unreplaceable, and Kazuha, while having a weaker buff than Furina, just simpler in terms of gameplay and don't need additional conditions to do all his things.

Well, for me the list of best characters will look definitely like this: 1. Nahida; 2. Kazuha; 3. Furina; 4. Neuvillette; 5. Yelan. I don't see how Raiden is 'best' now, I don't play her anymore at all. She is good, but now the hydro meta is rising. Furina on the third place as universal buffer, Neuvillette right next to her as the best DPS in the whole game. Zhongli, well. For me Yelan is basically more valuable, 'cause she's also contributes to overall team damage.

>>752 I do agree, I pull for her and I dont like her gameplay... My team always on a danger side and I must bring a healer. With healer, I lost slot for shielder, and I dont have baizhu who can do both. Playing with her is lack of comfort, I choose to use Yelan or Kokomi again. She is far if people want to compare her with kazuha or nahida, the must pull unit in genshin is undoubtly those two, the rest is decent unit but not that broken into considered as a must pull character

I dont think furina is that must pull. I agree she made some healer become a great option but its also her downgrade cause she NEED healer to shine made her niche than Yelan/Raiden/Zhongli. Furina simpers will defend against it forever but this is my list : 1. Kazuha 2. Nahida 3. Yelan 4. Zhongli 5. Raiden

>>742 yes. it's not accurate but it gives you idea what kind of teams are used to tackle this abyss. not half the player base even bother doing abyss anyways. only meta tryhards submitted their data there.

>>744 yes. hydros and sub-dps are important for many teams.

>>743 but why waste neuvillette team in single target side when he completely trashes other aoe teams? niloubloom,national,freeze? all those strong aoe teams have been flopped by neuvillette. hyperbloom is single target reaction. cheap and strong. from now on you'll see neuvillette team dominating aoe side, and hyperbloom kukiwith xq/yelan on single target side. trust.