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well, he is one of the first geo characters to be released... maybe the others are wrong, there was no geo archon besides him
Anyone else notice that the Nod Krai enemies are able to break his shield before his cooldown ends? I compared the elite enemies from Nod Krai and Natlan, barring the tenebrous mimiflora, and my Zhongli could easily take between 15 and 19 seconds of damage from Natlan elite enemies. In Nod Krai, his shield failed with about 2-3 seconds left in the casting cooldown of 12 seconds. This is far more than I found in difference between Natlan and Mondstadt elite enemies.
I think now zhongli is in his gold age, because now Hoyo make more enemies that can kill you in one strike.
Navia and Ningguang be like
Old man forgot that geo characters are supposed to scale off DEF, not HP
Daddy Zoongli still and will 4ever shine in SS tier
The point I was making was that you get almost the exact same shield strength as Black Tassel, but Dialogues of the Desert gives you a workable damage boost. The actual shield difference is negligible and your shield will expire before the difference matters. but the damage difference isn't. So if you're using zhongli at ALL, you should be using Dialogues of the Desert. if you don't want zhongli and his shield, then I really don't understand why you're here arguing about his main weapons
An A tier unit wouldn't have 20% res shred for ALL elements (even physical), would they?
Isn't it good that his best weapon is so f2p friendly...? Or are you looking for an excuse to whale for a weapon?
A tier unit
The fact that a three star weapon continues to be his best in slot despite having two four star polearm who's substat is health is beyond fucking annoying. (especially since the one with comparable health stats is only event one) The 3 star weapon should not have significantly more health than the four stars. Hoyo is a fucking joke. His weapon should be changed. Either change the stats of his existing signature weapon or give him a different one. This is retarded.
Zhongli basically, his shield makes the battle leisurely, a dodger, hardcore, will never take him. The rage skill has a very strong animation, powerful, but the damage is equivalent to class C, the shield worth SS will be redundant if you dodge well and replace it with an attack support unit like Bennet, Xilonen, ...
Tenacity of the Millelith seems good, Game8, but Zhongli's pillar range is short. If you can get enemies to fight close by then yeah it's a nice set. Hopefully, you can explain that to players before you just say yup pick this set, it's the best, end of story. Otherwise, just go rainbow or 2pc Tenacity of the Millelith + 2pc Vourukasha's Glow
You forget that people that use Zhong Li don't really care about damage, otherwise they wouldn't play him. He is mostly just a shield bot for mobile players or people that just can't dodge at all. For more damage there are usually better options then him. "bUt hE HaS 12% AlL reS pEn !!!111!!" you might say but yeah... any Anemo character can give you 40% for the elements that matter aside from Dendro (just make it hyperbloom)... and Geo and Physical are niche.
you end up with basically the same shield strength as black tassel, but with a lot more base attack. This is immediately more preferable to just having 200 more shield HP, or 50 more base attack (with rightful reward). The damage adds up; were talking like an extra 1000dmg per stone stele pulse. BASE dmg. Let me put it this way: would you rather have 200 more shield hp (at the point that even comes close to mattering, his skill is already off cooldown) or a 2s faster kill time?
The Dialogues of Desert Sages only becomes viable when you have C6 on him since it requires the wielder to heal for the skill to do anything. So having it on a C5 or below ZL sacrifices hp for what, extra base atk? Which is only useful when he’s being used as some form of dps. And before you say anything like “tenacity needs his skill to do dmg to apply the buff”, it just needs to hit an enemy, there is no mention of it doing dmg aside from hitting the enemy.
This should be updated to include the new 4 star weapon, Dialogues of the Desert Sages. It's definitely a more viable choice for shield Zhong than black tassel. Sure, black tassel offers 5.6% more HP, but that only equates to like, 100 extra shield HP. and you're giving up close to 1000 base burst and 200 base skill and resonance dmg. not to mention Dialogues of the Desert Sages synergizes with a C6 Zhongli much better, which is starting to get more feasible since Zhongli has appeared 5x
He makes progressing the game sooo much easier
Important tip on Stone Steele placements: face away from the enemy before Hold-E otherwise, facing the enemy before placing will make the stone disappear.
If you consider to wish for him and if you start playing this/last year, don't listen people who are playing since first versions. They have great builds with a lot of characters and thinks he is not useful for anyone because their great builds does not need him anymore. Even for only one character you have to farm artifact over 6 months for perfect stats. So, If you don't have perfect stats for your team, If abys floor 12 hard for you that means he will useful for you