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I think they should realy put dragonnight on s tier becouse it has a move I tried that can defenetly 1 hit ko gardevoir,greninja,pickachu,and even venusaur
The biggest mistakes in this tier list are Talonflame in A instead of Top S tier and Machamp in B instead of Top A tier. Talon is the best Scorer in the game with Score Shield and Buddy Barrier and it has insanely good objective secure with Fly + Razor Claw Auto attack. Also Talon has like infinite mobility with Fly + Flame Charge. Machamp has the best engage and disrupt in the game with Unstoppable Submission and Unite move. Machamp can singlehandedly save a TF with ult Pushback.
That’s actually reasonable enough.
Every Pokemon you mentioned should belong in A tier, except Pikachu. Pika is fine in S.
Can you take another look at Greedent, Sylveon, Pikachu, Blastoise, Mamoswine, Garchomp, Gardevoir again?
Compared to the meta tier Gardevoir is very bad. Also you prove a point by saying it's in ultra. It's a known gripe how 50% of player base are in "Masters" and yet theres TERRIBLE players all the way up to 1900 Masters, and you evaluate a pokemon by how it did in a Ultra rank game...
Yes, I played Gardevoir yesterday in trio queue ultra rank, and we won very easily. Ranged attackers that aren't venusaur aren't as strong because of *ahem* lucario, but are still strong.
Lmao Gardevoir is now A to S tier. The buff makes him very useful now.
Unite's biggest problem is that there is handful of Pokemon who do everything (or almost everything. Looking @ Eldegoss) really well and then there's the rest. Which means most of the time you see only that handful the higher you go. If I had to put the 10 most viable Pokemon in order they would be: Tsareena, Lucario, Venusaur, Eldegoss, Talonflame, Mr. Mime, Cinderace, Greninja, Wigglytuff and Snorlax. The order is most relevant for top 7. They can really do everything in the game.
I agree with this, because Gardevoir and Garchomp don't bring much to teamfights, (except for gardevoir's unite move, which will probably be on cool down most of the time) and mamoswine is only good in teamfights.
However in the end if we are looking at how good the pokemon ultimately can be at the current state, all 3 Mamo, Garchomp and Gardevoir all belong in the same tier, which is (depending on whose tierlist we are looking at) possibly one tier below Pokemon like Wigglytuff, Snorlax, Pikachu, Cinderace, Greninja, Talonflame, Machamp, Zeraora and such. And above THAT tier lies the 4 kings: Tsareena, Lucario, Eldegoss and Venusaur. Those 4 can pretty much 1v1 anyone below them + excel in TFs.
The dragon combo is good because it's savagely fast engage displacement stun combo that leaves you in melee range free to auto attack. Also if your whole combo hits the enemy is slowed, you get 3 boosted stacks (needing only 2 autos for full 5stack auto) and your own attack speed is increased for a short duration. Not to mention the combo has ONLY 6 second cooldown. However while Mamo is bad 1v1 and Garchomp is good, the contrary is true in teamfights. And higher you go, less 1v1s happen
I don't think garchomp is a bad pokemon, in fact, he is slowly becoming my most played pokemon this season, but there are a lot of pokemon he can't 1v1. Lucario, Tsareena, even Gardevoir, which imo is one of the worst pokemon. He is still an OK pick, but can't 1v1 a lot of pokemon. Also, the dragon combo isn't as good because it no longer can critically hit.
This is the same argument which makes Mamoswine bad. However unlike Mamo, Garchomp's Dragon dive into claw stun combo comes out on frame 10, unlike Mamo whose first instance of hard-CC comes out on frame 40+ and it has less cooldown than both mamo's moves. Not to mention chunky lifesteal and damage+sustian passive on Garchomp. It's not only a matter of "The moves reach as far as those others" but also how much of a windup is there, how fast is the move, how easy it is to avoid & so on.
Gardevoir is definitely squishy and easy to kill, but Garchomp requires on getting to close to attack. If some of the top ranged attackers were to 1v1 him, they would destroy him because they can stay back while still dishing out tons of damage.
What no? He has the same range on moves try it.
Right at this moment Tsareena, Lucario, Venusaur, Talonflame, Mr. Mime, Garchomp, Cinderace, Greedent, Greninja, Zeraora and Wigglytuff can all 1v1 Mamoswine (Masters 2k+ both of equal skill-level and Level) under goalzone and win the exchange. That just shows how lacking Mamo's options are. Hell, majority of the higher ladder players agree in unison that Mamo feels like it was created purely as a pubstomp Pokemon, a claim which its Passive and Ult clearly back up.
No. Also
Gardevoir dies the moment Tsareena, Lucario, Talonflame, Venusaur or Zeraora even look at it. Happens that all those I just mentioned are current Meta picks. Just having a stun doesn't make it good. Also Garchomp is much more viable in current Meta-climate + it has a stun gapcloser in Dragoncombo.
Tsareena is way too OP. Balance that stupid pokemon.