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Gardevoir is better than Garchomp. Garchomp is powerful, but his range is abysmal. Gardevoir can stay at a distance, and use moonblast to stum while she escapes.
Mamoswine can defend a goal zone, but you shouldn't go push to score without a teammate. He also isn't very good as a swinub. So playing safe till level 5 is the best bet.
Icicle crash and high horsepower has the same range like cinderaces and greninjas moves.
Lastly you have to remember that this applies to high ladder Masters mostly. Most of the people below Masters 2000+ aren't good enough to play and plan ahead far ENOUGH, so to speak, so against bad players Mamoswine has a good chance to capitalize on rookie mistakes. For example on the occasional Random match I still see most (Even Masters) Cinder and Greninja players basic attacking way too close completely forfeiting their range advantage. As it stands bad playerskill lets mamo shine.
Cont'd: Mamoswine might also be underrated but the main problem lies in its abysmal range and windup on its moves making it miserable alone. However you can succeed with Mamo if you pair it up accordingly. That way you don't have to waste your kit trying to engage, but can use it fully to prolong the disables. Hence best teammates for Mamo are those with heavy engage and/or CC/Damage ie; Machamp, Wigglytuff, Tsareena, Snorlax, Pikachu, Garchomp, Gardevoir, Mr. Mime & Cramorant.
The problem is that Decidueye, Cinderace and Greninja have much longer range than anything Mamoswine has and they all have means to keep Mamoswine from engaging. And even IF Mamoswine Eject Buttons in to get the engage, Cinderace has Feint or Blaze kick to create space, Greninja has Decoys to dislocate the real Greninja (and possibly Surf) and Decidueye has Shadow sneak for MASSIVE slow and movement speed buff to create space on TOP of having their Battle item still at the ready.
But however i think he is underrated maybe try to play him by yourself again and you will change your mind or not. Thx for the factual discussion
1v1 with pokemon who have low hp stats like decidueye, cincderace or gerninja is a free kill if you hit them with icicle crash and high horse power. Because the few seconds the are freezed and immobile, mamoswine has enough damage output to hit them to low health and push them to dead. Maybe you are right with his unreliable ability to stop enemies immediately but if you can play him its a safe ability to stop pokemons fast and long.
Mamoswine still suffers from lack of reliable engage and sustain options. Try to defend anything in 1v1 let alone 1v2 against any ranged or high mobility or burst Pokemon and you will struggle or straight up die. Common meta picks such as Cinderace, Greninja, Talonflame, Tsareena, Lucario, Venusaur, Zeraora, Pikachu, Mr. Mime and even Eldegoss all trade favorably into Mamoswine, because Mamo has no reliable engage. These Pokemon can bait out the Dash and then turn the tables on it.
You're totally right with "inability to function on his own" but he is a liner and he totally can hold back 2 enemies while linebuddy respawn. And with the second i can't agree at all because since buff he is at lvl 5 powerfull and a destroyer on lvl 7. Thats not too late. I think he is now as powerful as blastoise or more powerful.
I would agree, but his inability to function on his own and the fact it still takes awhile to get powerful, even after the buffs keeps him in A tier
U wrongly classified Mamoswine since the patch. He is really strong in the early and mid game now and the perfect line buddy for leveling. Also he can ccrowd control much longer since the animation time from high horse power was buffed. Icicle crash and high horse power is now strong as f. U can easily control about 4 sec, 3 or more enemies- long enough to give your line body enough time to kill all. Retry playing mamoswine and say he isn't now S tier
Comments 159, 164 & 169. FACTUALLY, Tsareena is the single strongest Pokemon this game has ever seen. Statline, Atk% scalung in moves, cooldowns, utility of Muscle band, healing, CC reduction and cooldown reset + damage buff passive, banish ult with high damage spike, early evolutions, flexible moveset, ton of CC and even more damage... List goes on.
Seems accurate. Gardevoir is better than Garchomp, and Machamp is good if played right.
There's no feasible way Tsareena is anything but a top tier pokemon. It has better statline than Lucario. It has a passive that reduces CC. Its passive lets her get an instant CD reset every 3 moves and/or Boosted autos. The same passive lets her either regain MASSIVE amounts of health or get a huge shield. If matchup so requires she is very flexible so you can even go Glide+Stomp to get insane CC chains. Her ult voids both you and the target preventing heals and immune damage. Nuts.
Please*
Guys pleite update the tier list. Gardevoir C tier? Wtf
Seriously SS? Your bias is annoying. Your C and B rankings are WHACK.
All new characters happen to be busted in some way.