Greninja Guide: Builds and Best Items（Page 3）Comment

They should add Ash greninja bond

>>35 wait, last time I checked out, they're like, 1/4 of greninja's dmg output, yeah still kinda useless though unless your using it for mobility

>>34 that moveset sucks tho, since your double team clones don't do any damage at all, it's basically useless, might as well go smokescreen for that assassin playstyle (sneaking in and out) and that extra attack when you upgrade smokescreen

I love surf double team, it's my go to jungle build for Greninja, Those surf resets are fire

Has anyone else tried and loved Surf and Double Team? I'm digging the clones all surfing the enemy and I feel it's clone damage for them doing surf verse doing water shiruken is much more. The enemy gets so confused when I use DT as I'm still pelting them with basic attacks then when they are gone I surf them into oblivion. Try it out and tell me what you think. DT is more for a brawler than assassin. Im more agressive when I play I guess.

>>30 agreed

surf smokescreen is def better right now, if you want me to explain it to you then you're stupid

I think if we want to deal more damage to enemy using greninja , we have to use choice specs and scope lens and the battle item is slow smoke to decrease enemy’s movement speed🧐

Feels like greninja is one of those pokemons that could really screw up teamfights if used correctly Surf and smokescreen is the combothat needs a lot of skill a d when used correctly can really change the whole game upside down WS and DT is a more easier move to control and more beginner friendly If you know how to use greninja correctly, use surf smokes, It is devastating in teamfights and could steal objectives really really Well. If you are new with greninja, use water shuriken double team

>>[26 yyyyeah, true. but honestly i'd still think surf is pretty good to escape, not only that, but surf does good damage and easier to hit unlike water shuriken, you also usually use dash moves to escape out of a tight situation and smokescreen just gives you that, you get a speedboost along with enemy blind

Although You can escape with surf, it has a longer duration to use that move again compared to water shuriken and double team can make the opposing Pokémon confused and it could also do damage unlike smokescreen

Unite move:8.5 Really good! AOE so theres that, does good damage, comes out fast, only problem is that its hard to aim it properly, and as like most unite moves it gets affected by Unstoppable which lowers it down by 1.5 Conclusion: It's really fun! good character, as it heals ALOT and mobility is also good as hell, combine that with a good unite and good dmg and its fun AND op!

heres my opinion about grenin Durability-wise: 3.5 Honestly, its actually pretty weak in HP. Due to this, greninja is sometimes forced to use WS as it heals more than Surf Damage-wise:10 OP! both WS and surf does good damage overall, Double team is used for extra damage, though the clones deal 4x less damage. Support wise:5 you can send out your clones to help people, but it doesn't do alot. Smokescreen is better as it can blind pokemon which allows your teammate to escape

I agree with u

Greninja is very good Pokemon but is very fragile

>>18 I agree with u

>>19 I agree

Smoke screen plus surf is the way to go you smoke screen out of a Bush then surf and with razor claw deal bonus damage on your next boosted attack. The perfect initiator build. Although I do agree water shurikwn has its perks. After the nerf double team doesn't find any place in the meta at the moment.

The water shuriken can run and use, and the double team also can run, and confuse the opponent. Although the surf and smokescreen can run faster, but... dealing some damage and running together to better for me...