>>270 Yeah that that the odd thing. They made changes to their tier list. Yet it effects so few dps. Only to bring down two now only one former top dps, to a lower tier. Not due to them getting worst or anyone getting better. Just team cost. Like it seems odd this change effect so few characters. When you think it would have a far greater effect on the tier list overall.

Can they please keep potential DPS and investment requirement separate? Make investment requirement an own tier. Make team flexibility and dependency with other characters an own tier. And since we're at it, just make cc a tierlist as well. Why even bother. All non-fontaine characters are not SS, since no ouisa/pneuma. All non-natlan characters are not SS, since no new regional gimmick... This change doesn't even follow your own sites tier list criteria!!

>>267 So downgrading a character that can out dps, one of this sites own Ss tier characters, means they should of been down graded sooner?

>>267 you do know she can out dps Arlecchino right? Also they move Alhaitham back up to ss after downgrading him to S. Which also is the tier list not about power? Like if it about how costly teams are. They should state that up front. Not pretend oh this character needs to be downgraded due to being bad. Which is what most would think when they see a tier list. Not how costly it is to build their teams.

Freaking finally. She deserved it sooner <3

So they move her down to S tier and yet still say she has one of the most powerful teams in the game. Interesting.

The description for the elemental skill and burst are swapped

>>262 yes she is

>>261 do u think this combo will work? i dont have furina and xianyun furina combo --> xianyun combo --> layla combo --> hu tao e then CA jump cancel plunge [repeat combo until downtime]

she is best

This character is..., definition of roller coaster in META chart.. First release : S Yelan release : SS (still S in my opinion, because her energy issue in C0) Sumeru release : S-A (dropped because new META) Fontaine release : still S-A Furina release : S-SS Xianyun release : SS (Xianyun help Hu Tao's problem in C0, changing her usual jump cancel combo to plunge, also reduce her needs for C1)

>>258 Hm, i thought it's because ol'DPS fans slandering Wrios first..

I don't want to use Xingqiu or Yelan(and I don't have Yelan). The Hydro Units I use are Nilou, Mona and Furina. I find it rather hard to use Furina and Hu Tao together. As A Shielder I use Layla. Are Nilou and Mona enough Hydro Application? How do I use them best? Is Mona with Prototype Amber okay with Hu Tao cause sometimes my Team dies? What should be my Rotation?

At least there are no Wriothesley fan here, unlike Ayaka's build page

>>252 Dragon bane c0, Team Xingqiu, Diona, Sucrose Average DPS 60-80k Charge Attack and Ultimate 150-180k All 10 talents.

>>255 as expected of liyuean dps

>>240 Xiangling too OP lol.

In abyss if lucky with good cards she could nuke to around 170k.

>>252 I have C0 Hu Tao with Dragons bane. She normally does 40k-80k CA and 80k-140k ultimate DMG.

Bro show me one Hu tao with low investment, okay, show me one f2p hu tao, how much can she deals ? shes one of the characters who need high investment but ss? this just makes any sense