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Help He Who Was: Punish the Wicked

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Help He Who Was (Punish the Wicked) - Baldur

This is a walkthrough on how to help He Who Was in Baldur's Gate 3 (BG3). Read on to know how to find He Who Was, how to find the ledger, and how to punish the wicked!

Side Quest Details

Journal Entry
Punish the Wicked
Reward Raven Gloves
Related Quest None
Location
Find He Who Was to the East of Last Light Inn

How to Help He Who Was

Speak to He Who Was

He Who Was - Baldur

To start the side quest, you need to look for He Who Was to the east of the Last Light Inn. Speak to him and agree to help him avenge the victims of a murderer by punishing the killer.

Find Madeline's Ledger

After approaching him, he will ask you to look for a ledger. You can find Madeline's Ledger underneath the floorboard behind the bar inside the Waning Moon. You will need to pass a Perception check to interact with it, so make sure your whole party passes by the area.

Defeat Thisobald Thorm

Thisobald Thorm - Baldur

When you enter the Waning Moon for the first time, you will have to defeat Thisobald Thorm to get access to the floorboard behind the bar. There are two ways you can beat him, either by out-drinking him or by simply killing him.

How to Beat Thisobald Thorm

Make Madeline Feel Guilty

NPC Dialogue Punish Madeline - Baldur
''She never said stop. I'd do anything to take it back. Anything.''
Dialogue Options Dialogue Results
[PERSUASION (DC10)]
''Anything? Then hurt yourself as Ben and Marc did - stab yourself.''
Success
He Who Was Dies
Failure
He Who Was Becomes Hostile
[PERSUASION (DC10)]
''Pathetic - you murdered your friends. You're a coward.''
Success
Madeline is Punished
Failure
He Who Was Becomes Hostile
[PERSUASION (DC10)]
''There's nothing you need do. This wasn't your fault - I promise.''
Success
Madeline is Forgiven
Failure
He Who Was Becomes Hostile

Have someone with high Charisma and a proficiency in Persuasion, like Wyll, to give back the ledger to have higher chances of succeeding the skill check.

Once you give the ledger to He Who Was, he then performs a ritual where Madeline's spirit will possess his body. Make her feel guilty for her actions by choosing the ''Pathtetic - you murdered your friends'' option. Doing this will make He Who Was satisfied and he will give you a reward for doing so. However, picking the other options will result in He Who Was' death whether you succeed or not.

Rewards for Punishing the Wicked

Raven Gloves

Raven Gloves - Baldur

The player will receive Raven Gloves from He Who Was if they succeeded in punishing Madeline. However, if you failed to make her guilty, then He Who Was will become hostile and the Raven Gloves cannot be looted from his body.

Raven Gloves: Armor Guide and How to Get

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