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0 cycling is useless, it's a personal achievement, if a char can do that good, if not that's just fine there's no need to
kudos to you finally some back up
you won't get an achieve by 0-cycling shit, and you certainly won't get an achievement by boasting about Jing Liu brute forcing shit when everyone has done the same the past few moc. you're making everything so stupidly toxic
but putting sw in there is actually a grief if sam have ice weakness, its way better to use ting yun cuz energy and ddd is broken for 0 cycle lol
Being absolutely objective, Acheron's kit now doesn't put at the top dps spot. DHIL is better than QQ but QQ is fun so just use who you want. JL vs DHIL is pointless since they're pretty much the same just use who you want. Anyone can bruteforce and 0 cycle is not an achievement so majestic so stop making a fuss about it
holy fuck, you won't stop, aren't you?
wondering why u use the bruteforce like sw deosnt exist to implant ice weakness
Finally someone with a brain, it's not so deep
A character who can 0 cycle doesn't have to be better than one who can't, you can use who you want, if you want to show off ok you do you but that's not the goal of like half of the players. Most people don't care about record times, just clearing is enough
theres only one male dps that can 0 cycle sam, ratio but its not really bruteforce since he is alr img weak to begin with, jing yuan on the other hand even with sw cant bruteforce for shit
nvm this has quantum weak, anyways only jingliu can actually bruteforece sam
Just stop, you all. Every single character in this game can bruteforce, you all won't get an achievement.
you ignoring all the male dps who 0 cycled sam like a champ
the fact is that except meta slaves, showoffers and speedrunners, it's not much important to 0 cycle everything, it's just personal achievement. If you like to beat your record and keep improving your game, you can just pull meta, but for casual players like me who can already clear pretty much everything we pull chars we like. people use MoC performance to set chars' value but it's not that the ultimate goal, just pull who you want and have fun
also e0 seele can bruteforce sam too if u know what ur doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9fmKgSiLpQ
I'm hoping but if she's doesn't get it she's still solid. Not as good as the two gods but still good, people who like can pull without regrets. obv not top but it's usable
That's why I'm saying WAIT FOR FINAL KIT, rn we are arguinf on wip and that's useless, I'm not a simp and not a meta slave, I can objectively say she's not top tier rn, but things may change in the future. There will always be some people with good relics who can use her well, so just wait until release
Doubt she's going to get buff in V4
you use pela and sw, and a harmony like sparkle or bronya to 0 cycle,
She's good and definitely a solid dps who can do great things but rn she's absolutely not as op as JL and DHIL, I'm hoping for nice buffs so you should too instead of simping here now, if they make her broken like JL then you can come back here and boast about it but rn you're just being a clown