2.6 Tier List and the Best Characters as of November 2024（Page 123）Comment

>>2184 that’s literally what everyone’s been saying. Im only arguing on the whole “DHIL is trash” part which is far from the truth. For Kafka Hager’s yeah black swan is definitely better but without? I’d go for sparkle or Jing yuan instead. DHIL still holds lots of value but he is not a must pull. Also most bosses have summons so having AoE coverage is a good thing to have and in most MoC you’ll start with 3 elites so yeah, that’s why blast shines.

DHIL is good, no doubt about it, but imho those who don't have him (but have ratio) don't 'need' him as much as a good ice unit (like JL) or electro unit (like Kafka) since there aren't many good dps with the same element, while imaginary we have Ratio and Welt if you count him too. I personally think DHIL is a lil bit overrated but anyway deserves top 3 dps in both st and AoE, but if I were to start a new account, he wouldn't be my top priority pull

>>2183 no i dont hate, if they get baited into pulling IL thats on them

>>2180 ofc i will be using my DHIL cuz he is e2, ratio on the other hand i aint even wasting my resource on him, I would rather bruteforce bs with kafka or jingliu hypercarry

New commenter here who wish to join the debate, I think 2179 does have a good point, IL is not must pull as 2173 said, but his dmg is still really good. I don't know if he's worth more than BS but for kafka havers BS is just so fucking amazing. DHIL is good to have but with free ratio he is not imaginary coverage useful as before. Sure, his AoE is great, that's where he wins against ratio, but since most (hard) content is boss fights, ST honestly seems more important to me.

Just admit it won’t you? You hate seeing people picking DHIL over black swan otherwise why go through all this?

>>2179 if you think he dmg is insane your in a daydream. Literally not a must pull over him without Kafka where most of her dmg comes from. E6 sampo is the next best support for her and the only thing they have going is the meme boss. Also the pure fiction is quite literally tailor made for her so if wait a bit more before calling her insane and better than DHIL without Kafka lol

>>2178 PF is baby content its literally erudition check, if you have an invested herta, serval, you can easily get full points or atleast the minimum 30k each

Also I’m 99.99% sure they’ll be secretly using ratio and DHIL (if they do actually have them) for the upcoming MoC cause spoiler alert but it’s filled with img weakness on both sides and has floor 11-12 have the bosses that were tailor made for ratio and DHIL.

>>2177 why am i butthurt LMAO, im just saying going for IL instead of black swan is worst. Even without kafka, blackswan is still better cuz her damage is still insane and you have a wind DPS, and we dont have a free wind dps thats as good now do we?

>>2171 Argenti is best for pure fiction, that’s were his huge aoe shines. Dr ratio is good and I’ll admit (even though I’ve already done so) that having him means you don’t have to worry about img dps. What I was arguing about is his strength. He’s still top tier and a good pull regardless but it seems that guy wants people to think otherwise. Switched from trashing ratio to DHIL real quick when it came to black swan.

>>2172 sure, keep finding reasons to trash him. All I got from this is your butthurt that some people are deciding to go for him rather than black swan.

>>2174 this is exactly why I can’t take them seriously and don’t worry it’s pretty obvious when he’s coping someone so everyone knows it’s not you.

>>2173 exactly, don’t know why that’s so hard to admit for people.

>>2172 Bro don't copy my name :D

tldr, DHIL is good, but not must pull

I am a 57 year old, with knowledge in HSR TC and I can safely say that IL is mediocre at best, and his pull value is not good. If ratio is not free anymore, my best advice is save for a future IMG DPS. in like 3.0 or something

>>2170 the dmg he deals to 3 targets ratio deals to one, and the dmg argenti deals on the same amount of targets is his double. Not saying he is bad, but compared to his dmg on launch, I feel like new players doesn't need him anymore. Anyway one pulls whoever they like, I wouldn't mind getting him, honestly it wouldn't be bad to have him but spending jades is a big no

>>2168 wtf you taking about? His dmg is still top tier, how can he not compete with other dps who are still below him? You don’t even need sparkle unless you wanna make him broken.

>>2146 that is one thing I can agree on. DHIL is not trash cause that would mean every other dps except for jingliu (even her tbh since they’re on the same level rn) is also trash. Also DHIL has the advantage of being blast over ratio and keeping in mind that dr ratio won’t be free forever. For coverage you should definitely go for someone else but DHIL isn’t trash and still has a lot of value. Also black swan without Kafka is pretty meh.