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look at me im f2p the only character i pulled in the entire 3.x is cas, hyacine, e9, and cyrene and I managed to get eidolons on them so e2s1 cas, e2s1 hyacine, e2s1 e9, e2 cyrene with f2p lc, so yeah if you managed your pulls right and not just pull on random banners, you can easily get characters with eidolons and sig
reminder hyacine lc is a 40% total team dmg increase in a blade/cas team, yeah 40% surely doesnt seem alot
just because you need eidolons doesnt mean paywall, dont be greedy, there are a lot of people who are f2p with eidolons all you need is not be greedy and stupid and save, dont be like "wow new character, I pull whatever". Plan your pulls and save, just go look at phainonmains on reddit, im confident 90% of the people there have him e2. So no, just because you see e2 doesnt mean paywall, its just a matter of saving.
Sustain doesn't require eidolons or cones; they're perfectly designed on the e0
lightcones can be used by others. e1 and higher, no matter the role, should be bonus! not needed! robin, tribbie and ruan mei, at e0, are all plug in/plug out AND are getting better with eidolons, with GREAT e1/e2. to make cyrene universal like this three, e2 IS A MUST AND NOT A BONUS. people like you are are problem, because you defend paywalling universal usefullness. what's next? a dps who needs e4 to ult?
every support needs eidolon or sig to be competitive, look at sunday sig, e1 tribbie, e1 robin, just cuz ur broke to afford e2 cyrene its ok, just chill, and suffer.
sounds to me that hoyo did a great job brainwashing you!
but thats the point if you need her at e2 to even be compedetive to the other alternetives is she really a good unit
and if u have e2 cyrene you can literally 0 av ult with her if you are running her with e2 evernight
who cares if she is needs e2 to become universal, atleast she makes up for being broken at e2 just say ur broke man its not that hard. I have e2 cyrene and I can literally use her in my acheron team and managed to 1 cycle reaver moc, before cyrene i was using sparkle and was doing 4 cycles with my acheron so e2 cyrene is such a huge game changer universal support
not an exageration most wont pull cyrene for she needs e2 to be functional the rmc is free tribbie only need e1 that means cyrene is a worse unit as she needs that much investment to even compete with those 2
rmc only offers 20% true damage and an unreliable AA if you time it incorrectly, and no sub dps whatsoever, yeah go use that garbage
ok lets not exaggerate ourselves, at e0 this is true but e2? lets be real 48% true damage, 80% damage bonus, great sub dps, 1 time full ult charge, that's infinitely better than what RMC provides
she dont work well in any team there are better option like tribbie and rmc both wastly superior to march7 from wish
cyrene is a worse remembrance tb and a worse tribbie even at e2 she is below avrage she should put at b tier at best
the only way for cyrene to work with the 4.x dps is to spend more to get her e2 lmao, but at that point just save for an e2 DPS in 4.x since DPS eidolons are usually 200%+ increase thanks (phainon, evernight) and with 4.x the increase in eidolon DPS could easily go to 300%
cyrene is overrated af, even game8 agrees that she is not at SS, she is not as universal compared to other harmonies, and the chance of her working for the 4.x is non existent compared to someone like sunday who has a very high chance of working with the 4.x dps. IMO game8 did a good job at rating her. All cyrene does is prolong the lifespan of 3.x dps thats her entire purpose, 0 chance she will be relevant with the 4.x dps
issue is she will almost never ult most fights even bosses lasts 1 to 2 cycles not 4 wich is needed for cyrene to ult
cyrene even at e2 is a worse tribbie and a worse rmc for she needs e6 to be even close to tribbie there is no world where cyrene is good
cyrene isnt meant to be good she is last one in amphoreus becuse she is gonna be irrelevabt next patch