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y'all arguing sm when they're both gonna get powercreep by herta and aglaea anyway
No one cares, both are trash that are slowly getting crept or asking ridiculous investments to keep them alive Fugue RM on Firefly and Jiaoqiu with best support in the game currently on Robin. Yeah Acheron with Jiaoqiu and Robin, when you would be able to achieve that with just new Herta and a bunch of pushover 4 stars.
and for firefly to have 0 cycle potential thats not the trio boss u need a minimum of e1 rm and e1 linsha, but at that point any break dps will be able to 0 cycle. If ur e0 rm and e0 lingsha then firefly can never 0 cycle
*ur delusional if u think firefly is better than acheron
ur delusional if u think firefly is better than firefly of all the dps u can compare lmao, firefly isnt even competitive in terms of 0 cycle. And yes acheron in her worst scenario is still able to 0 cycle, 3 cost btw. How bout firefly can her 3 cost beat hoolay ? keep in mind this boss has no elec weakness so more disadvantage for acheron and the turbulence buffs is more for beneficial for firefly Acheron shits on firefly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neb9tJ5fiJE&t=19s
She used to be good without LC and Jiaoqiu, but creep is always stalking and she dropped HARD and the only way for her to remain competitive is Jiaoqiu and LC investment, otherwise RIP bench time.
Kinda agree disagree Acheron E's are not that impactful, having Jiaoqiu is more impactful and LC.
Acheron is mid. She is always been mid at E0S0, half of the fanbase literally owns her LC and/or eidolons so their perception of her is skewed. She's not a great character to have for f2p who can't afford to pull for her eidolons or LC nor is she good for those who doesn't have Jiaoqiu. You're best to pull for someone like Feixiao or even Firefly even tho she depends so much on HMC (at least the latter's support is free) or even just pull for 5star Herta since she'll prolly powercreep them anw
Exactly bruh, people still debating about Acheron but having her with Pela and Guinaifen feels horrible to play nowadays and without LC oooff. Compared to Feixiao with Moze and March that feels great to play and the damage is just pure insanity for such low investment.
Why is jingliu s tier drop her to b tier where she belongs
without jiaoqui acheron is pretty much useless
Bruh what? are you cooked? At that point why even play? are you aware we're like a couple of months away for 3.0 where you pick up new Herta and have 6-7 months of her being the best DPS in the game and then get the new stuff? Instead you get an Acheron without LC and Jiaoqiu now and do absolutely nothing and gets completely benched even with LC and Jiaoqiu in 2 months, not even with her alone you prob clear all jades for end game without LC and Jiaoqiu.
She doesn't, she was unmatched when released pre Firefly and pre Feixiao, was more versatile than Boothill even if she had lower ST, but nowadays her ST is pretty average and you need a bunch of investment LC and Jiaoqiu for her to feel good to play and even with that a Feixiao with 4 stars does more damage on average which is pretty funny but that's how it is.
It isn't due the nature of E2 Acheron where you want just 1 Nihility and then a filler non-nihility powercreep unit harmony in this case, if they make another Nihility that creeps Jiaoqiu this soon it would be really bad for the people that actually invested on Acheron and could piss them off, a Nihility Acheron creep partner will happen but maybe on 4.0 but it would be like Sunday on JY which makes him better but still gets smoked by new DPS, so it makes no sense.
Lastly thinking that Jiaoqiu is Acheron peak is highly naive cuz they ll still release Nihility chars in the future and everything can happen.
Maybe they ll clear and Acheron guarantees you 50% success in end game since release and it won't change soon cuz her kit is special one, for f2p its best pick :)
Bruh maybe better let he wait for 5.0 cuz by your logic they ll be better then 4.0 chars and 3.0 ll be forgotten till then which you don't now that cuz its only your speculations lul :)
is it just me or Acheron doesn't really deserve that second spot in single target? her ST dmg is kinda ass tbh which can be seen while fighting Hoolay, i feel like Boothill should be rank higher in ST. might get bash by Acheron mains tho
And Acheron without LC and Jiaoqiu feels so awful to play nowadays, so yeah keep investing on powercrept char.
Less than 30 days for either Fugue or Sunday, 2 months for Herta. Fugue and Sunday going to be powercreep enough to make trash units work and get at least MoC 10 full stars and normal Herta with Himeko and Fugue will clear PF, maybe 2 stages of full star AS, and what do you lose? 4-5 pulls at max? Yeah just get Acheron instead and use 80 pulls on that and then bench her in the next months that's a great advice, golden bruh.