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with which supports? bet the one i mentioned lol
and seele can also 0 cycle first half which has no quantum weakness BTW
he did 0 cycle 1st half tho using typical 2pc 2pc relic and not his best team. however the 2nd half 1st wave makes rm buff mostly go to waste for both ratio and topaz. why are you almost 40 but senile already genuinely? hence why i ask
what do you mean competing if he can't 0 cycle both sides in moc 12 that ain't competing, even IL can 0 cycle moc 12 side 2.
whats not clicking that ratio is competing without proper team here
my mistake about the turbulence then. still doesnt explain rm buff almost go to waste for both ratio and topaz 1st wave. 2nd half only favors ratio breaking power so. seele can cling unto all the 3 ss harmony bronya rm tingyun.
how bout u show me first Ur ratio
ratiotard simps acting here so blindly i just cant lmao. hes weak but they cant admit it because they r just a bunch of twitter girls who cant do the math bruh. just see at Seele numbers shes purely better its even not questionable, my god. im almost 40 y o man and i have higher education so i can judge ratiotard from more objective point of view them yall bruh
for 0 cycling u don't rely on turbolence....
so no real argument? pity
bro acting like true sting not weak to quantum too. there is a reason why ice teams and quantum teams are more preferred for that half. this moc favors rm team, brings rm easy break for both ice and quantum dps for 2nd half. easy turbulence effect.
can u show a 0 cycle with ratio without using bronya RM topaz and with no relics
Maybe in your dreams a debuffer who debuffs the defense of enemies by 100% when ratio is on the team can happen.
big talk.but just as usual you will be proven wrong. anyway can you do me a favor try 0 cycling seele without bronya tingyun and ofc without 4pc quantum relic set heh.
yeah even with complete team he ain't 0 cycling better than seele just by being single target and this moc already favors ratio lol a bunch of IMG weakenss on the first side and the true sting has img too
are you ignoring my arguments on purpose. but i kinda get it. now is the only good time to doompost him to your heart content. you wont be able to do it anymore when the moc meta shifts and he completes his team. so ig keep going with the hate then lol
and ratio only locked to moc and seele can be used in both moc and pc and outperform him in terms of 0 cycling and getting more points already says a lot about ratios strength lol
most destruction also bad in pf. herta himeko meta in pf so what? moc still favor st dps over pure aoe dps.
that 1.0 dps with more complete team than him and have actual 4pc relic already lol.
Let's also not forget that ratio has 0 uses in PF whereas seele can get 40k points