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In terms of consistent 0 cycle black swan is way better, but if Ur dumb enuf to think otherwise, then be my guess. Also bs team>>dhil team>>ratio team especially with sparkle coming, even I can agree that dhil team is better than ratio team for consistent 0 cycle, to think u put them in same tier is delusional.
yeah waste jades on 2 IMG DPS, and think future all enemies will only have IMG weakness come on now, and wdym only good in pf, have u seen any black swan moc clears? Also Ur even delusional to think ratio is better than Blackswan. BS team can full point PF easily and 0 cycle moc, way easier than ratio, keep in mind this moc buff still does not favor bs too
what an absolute pile of cope crap you just spouted. no one sane would pull a 5* sampo over dhil even with free ratio. having both dhil and ratio>>>>>bs. hardest content back then, now and in the future all favor img over wind lol. these people forgot about those swarm bugs already. also sam and meme bosses are coming soon in moc. sam is literally a boss tailor made for dhil to counter kekekek. and the meme boss is a toy for ratio fua team. bs is for what? pf? lol
I came here cause I wanted to ask for some advice but after seeing the amount of chaos a simple pull ask caused nvm…
yeah fire really needs to get some good f2p options as dps. misha from what I’ve heard so far is decent enough as ice coverage and yanqing might get better with aventurine (I’ve been clearing ice stages with him regardless but that’s with massive investment cause I gotta kill them before they hit me) and Dan heng is also decent enough for wind weakness + there are already two dps 5 star for it. Quantum has qq and xeuyi. Then there’s fire with topaz being more of a FUA enabler.
fair I often brute force everything with DHIL too. I also plan to get Acheron and Sam for fire and lightning coverage too since their gameplay looks fun from the leaks of them so far. I need another sustain that isn’t a healer so I’m also going for aventurine but we don’t know if he’ll solo sustain yet since he’s also a dps in a way. Don’t know much about Sunday though but they might make him an Ice Dps considering his element. Misha is enough for me as Ice coverage though.
that's a good point, I usually just go JL blade RM and brute force everything but having a dps who does AoE blast is good. Honestly I don't like JY (gameplay wise) so Sparkle (and acheron) seem more appealing to me, also aventurine and sunday may be game breaking, but we already have this many supports and sustains, I would like a decent fire dps since we only have Topaz (and Himeko T-T) and, well, she's not really top tier XD
your comments suggest otherwise but okay, whatever makes you feel better.
that’s literally what everyone’s been saying. Im only arguing on the whole “DHIL is trash” part which is far from the truth. For Kafka Hager’s yeah black swan is definitely better but without? I’d go for sparkle or Jing yuan instead. DHIL still holds lots of value but he is not a must pull. Also most bosses have summons so having AoE coverage is a good thing to have and in most MoC you’ll start with 3 elites so yeah, that’s why blast shines.
DHIL is good, no doubt about it, but imho those who don't have him (but have ratio) don't 'need' him as much as a good ice unit (like JL) or electro unit (like Kafka) since there aren't many good dps with the same element, while imaginary we have Ratio and Welt if you count him too. I personally think DHIL is a lil bit overrated but anyway deserves top 3 dps in both st and AoE, but if I were to start a new account, he wouldn't be my top priority pull
no i dont hate, if they get baited into pulling IL thats on them
ofc i will be using my DHIL cuz he is e2, ratio on the other hand i aint even wasting my resource on him, I would rather bruteforce bs with kafka or jingliu hypercarry
New commenter here who wish to join the debate, I think 2179 does have a good point, IL is not must pull as 2173 said, but his dmg is still really good. I don't know if he's worth more than BS but for kafka havers BS is just so fucking amazing. DHIL is good to have but with free ratio he is not imaginary coverage useful as before. Sure, his AoE is great, that's where he wins against ratio, but since most (hard) content is boss fights, ST honestly seems more important to me.
Just admit it won’t you? You hate seeing people picking DHIL over black swan otherwise why go through all this?
if you think he dmg is insane your in a daydream. Literally not a must pull over him without Kafka where most of her dmg comes from. E6 sampo is the next best support for her and the only thing they have going is the meme boss. Also the pure fiction is quite literally tailor made for her so if wait a bit more before calling her insane and better than DHIL without Kafka lol
PF is baby content its literally erudition check, if you have an invested herta, serval, you can easily get full points or atleast the minimum 30k each
Also I’m 99.99% sure they’ll be secretly using ratio and DHIL (if they do actually have them) for the upcoming MoC cause spoiler alert but it’s filled with img weakness on both sides and has floor 11-12 have the bosses that were tailor made for ratio and DHIL.
why am i butthurt LMAO, im just saying going for IL instead of black swan is worst. Even without kafka, blackswan is still better cuz her damage is still insane and you have a wind DPS, and we dont have a free wind dps thats as good now do we?
Argenti is best for pure fiction, that’s were his huge aoe shines. Dr ratio is good and I’ll admit (even though I’ve already done so) that having him means you don’t have to worry about img dps. What I was arguing about is his strength. He’s still top tier and a good pull regardless but it seems that guy wants people to think otherwise. Switched from trashing ratio to DHIL real quick when it came to black swan.
sure, keep finding reasons to trash him. All I got from this is your butthurt that some people are deciding to go for him rather than black swan.