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Well my Seele hits lil over 70-80k alone cuz I spent 1.1 1.2 farming her artifacts😅, with tingyun or SW she hits 120k+, idk with both tho cuz I always keep them in two different teams
the seeles i have tried did 60k-80k per ult. her skill does like 9k-13k. i checked their build all of them are well built max traces lvl 10 ult and skill. this is why i cant be impressed with seele till this day.
i have tried many seeles from the support list against cocolia weekly boss. i find none of them strong like im sorry how do your seele hit more 150k? in su with broken blessings and path resonance?
Also dr.ratio doesn’t use any of the same supports as seele except for SW who seele only uses in mono q
really? I’ve yet to see seele hit that much in one turn myself. I don’t have though so I might be wrong but I think you’d need a lot of investment.
fr im getting so annoyed at people using IL hunger for sp as a con when it’s not even that big of a problem. He’s a dps who has skill consumption as his niche. He works fine with every support except for bronya and the new two upcoming supports are both sp+. All dps have their own niches. Doesn’t matter if upcoming dps will do just as much dmg as him with less skill points cause it’s not big downside unless you can’t manage your skill points which I’m pretty sure everyone does.
E3 QQ with meme build carried 😅
well I mean this MoC is literally named "Sedition of Imbibitor Lunae" 😂💀 I had to bench him for the first time this MoC but luckily my QQ did the job even tho her build is half-assed.
didn’t you yourself say that 0 cycle doesn’t matter cause even 4 stars can do it? Really love how your constantly contradicting To try and prove your points. Anyway you should know that this moc has been the worst moc for IL so far as no buffs are benefiting him while jingliu is having a field day. In case you didn’t know IL has always had faster clear times and if you’d look at the average clear charts this is the first jingliu beat him but it’s not even by much which says alot
dont attack that old man with facts. he might cry when he realized his jingliu is not the strongest.
She also needs bronya aka the best support in game to be as consistent and strong as Dan heng, even her enjoyers have admitted to this while Dan heng can do more with just his 4 star supports and without hanabi who is yet to release.
imbibtor sp isn’t even a problem seeing as their are so many sp positive and neutral supports. Plus we’re talking about who’s the better dps in terms of dmg not who is easier to build which I will agree is jingliu. Dan heng IL has higher multipliers and dmg than jingliu just go see showcases and discussions. You all are saying this as if jingliu herself doesn’t have setbacks. Her dmg isn’t consistent and her Enhanced state doesn’t last long.
yep i hope we get dual boss next moc
hoyo even had to do jingliu a favor by giving true sting in moc ice weakness lol. jingliu wouldve flopped on release if that bug stayed weak only to img and qua like in swarm.
so lets see midliu 0 cycling boss with no ice weakness 😂
idk if you havent noticed but moc has been ice friendly since jinglius release. this moc screams anti dan heng and its not a stretch to say ice will be dead soon too. maybe during penacony moc. penacony seems to have many ligtning and imaginary units.
ratio nukes with fua. seele needs energy to do a nuke. ratio>>>seele.
Anyway they're both top tier DPS, rn the focus will be if Ratio will be able to get the throne of single target dmg, yeah he can do 80-100k per fua but Seele can get to 200-300k if built (I mean f2p) and with the same supports, so it will be a debate between instant dmg and long term damage. I think Seele might still be top tier against bosses and MoC speed runs and 0 cycle, but idk Ratio could honestly come completely in clutch and just fuck everyone with nonstop 100k fua, we'll see
They're both great but I think Jingliu is easier to play, has as good dmg as DHIL and is slightly more sp friendly. I tried a really good built DHIL on my friend's account but he does as much dmg as my JL but using much more skill points. Maybe it's my fault that I don't know how to cycle his team, but that also is a con, that Jingliu is much more easy to play, just skill until big sword form, ult and spam attack, easy dmg
Imo Jingliu is slightly better just cuz she doesn't need skill points, while DHIL needs just a little more but does equal damage, but he uses them all in one turn so there will be one turn you're team will be skill point empty