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probably unless you decide to play her in mono Quantum with silver wolf instead of Bronya.
would that make bronya + Hanabi seele best team. If what your saying is true than seele would be getting a 30% dmg bonus each time she attacks and their wouldn’t be much sp problems.
Also I love that they are finding a way to indirectly buff Seele and Qingqiue cause it makes sure they aren’t left behind by old units.
fr they’ll be pretty op together I don’t get why others think it’s the end when IL doesn’t need action forward in the first place. I think leaks already made it obvious she was his support and it’s not like she’s only tied to him or anything. She still gives atk and speed buffs which alot dps can use and a 30% dmg boost per turn for other dps isn’t bad. Jingliu and Blade are the only characters who can’t be played with her.
Only downside about her is she can’t be used it’s characters like Jingliu and Blade cause their enhanced state/basic consumes no SP but it’s not very surprising considering she was already rumored to be a DHIL/QQ/Seele support. Obviously QQ and DHIL will be stronger with her cause they consume a lot of SP in one go which gives more dmg boosts but Seele will still be able to abuse it.
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pretty sure it’s not it’s not over. Her kit is still pretty insane with DHIL. A 30% dmg boost per skill pinky consumption that’s a whopping 90% dmg boost per turn for DHIL. She gives speed and and atk buff that seems bigger than yukongs and makes it so your team is overflowing with SP so DHIL isn’t tied to just sp+ units with her. Yeah pretty sure she and DHIL will probably be the strongest team for quite some time even with no action forward.
play blade. Pretty sure you should at least have one of the three
what I’d you don’t have Huo Huo though? Not saying jingliu wouldn’t work without bronya but if you don’t have her or huo huo then you’ll have to be creative with your team.
well here is a f2p Dr.ratio showcase. He does 70k per follow up and i personally would’ve used gui or SW instead of pela cause she struggles to maintain the debuffs but oh well. https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/s/yk7Huq8kzM I don’t think he’s broken but he’s very strong. So yeah I think you should probably for for Clara to cover the weakness cause welt isn’t needed.
No, if you don’t have bronya then just use huo hio + Tingyun and nothing will change. Jingliu is not reliant on bronya nor does she need her to work.
And even with the change of set ups in jingliu and DHIL they do not become hard to manage cause I only mean the speed. You want yukong to always be slower then your sustain and Tingyun but faster then Lunae. I don’t know much about jingliu without bronya though so I don’t think you need to change Pela or Tingyun speed stats or anything but her enhanced state might have lower uptime.
I personally do find Argenti (at least in aoe cause he sucks in single target) and blade to be easier to use or at least “brain dead” like how you guys out it because even with the switch of characters their rotations and set ups doesn’t change much + it’s just enhanced basic and skill till ult.
I think it depends on an accounts characters and builds. For example the standard team for jingliu is pela + bronya which is a rotation that is easy to maiantain same with Lunae only change bronya with Tingyun. Of course in jingliu team Tingyun is a strong candidate if you don’t have e4 pela or bronya so you might have to change your teams set up. Sam with Lunae. But this is talking about how to play them and not their teams which is just 3B and skill > ult.
yeah that could be great, I was thinking Ratio Welt gepard with trend of the universal market (the lc that burns who attacks the wielder) and SW, while my other team would be luocha Jingliu Ruan Mei Tingyun
yeah that's probably the best thing to do, i hope it's one of those two or Himeko that I don't have, or just let me win that would be also great
Thing is though welt plus SW/Ruan mei will probably be Ratio best team. Welt covers his aoe weakness and SW can implant even more debuffs while Ruan Mei will make your team have a field day with the constant imprison on enemies.
actually yeah you should probably wait and see, maybe you’ll lose 50/50 and it’s one of the two or if your close to getting a 5 star on the standard then I’d wait to see what It’ll be before making my decision
ok so ratio will be your imaginary dps and that makes it three. You said your going for black swan but I don’t really know how good she’ll be without Kafka. Then yeah you should probably go for Clara to over the lack of some elemental dps.
Anyway thanks, I'll decide after pulling Ruan Mei in case i lose the 50/50 ahah