At least, y'all changed.seteth to an S. Y'all had it at A at first, & i think it deserves an S. Pirate Veronica's refine is great, IMO. Definitely an S. Made her useful, to me.

>>20 chrom, ofc**

So, someone thinks pirate Veronica & flayn refines are the same rank? .. That's certainly a...take. All brave chrim really gets, IIRC, is adding piercing at 50% & some stats, but that warrants an S?

Lewyn's Forseti is listed under S & A ranks, FYI.

After finally looking at these, many make no sense, IMO. How is brave lucina still in the S category? It has summer ingrid sss, but she's listed in the "s" category, not even "ss". 🤦🏼‍♂️ How in the world is mew year selkie or mythic peony listed above jorge & shinon? The latter do much more to help their intended role than the former. Peony shouldn't even be attacking. I'm speechless on some of these rankings.

Ishtar's refine is underrated. She easily kills F!Edelgard plus she's fast and freely use wind/water sweep depending on the situation. It's like S! F! Byleth but faster.

@Game8 I can't live without this statistic!

Update please :)

We need an update :) I'm missing VHector and the newest ones like Ryoma!

Where is (L!)Ryoma's. It's SS tier in my opinion, he is so bad without it but extremely good with it.

How about Marth? Where would his speciak refine fall into?

>>4 Updated! Thank you :)

Needs to be updated! Lots of refines not added!!!

>>1 Probably SS

Where does Laslow’s refine fit into this list?