Chapter 17: If Griefs Could Passions Move Story Walkthrough, Dialogue Choices, and Item Locations

This is a walkthrough and guide for Chapter 17: If Griefs Could Passions Move in Triangle Strategy. Read on to learn more about the Chapter's objectives, dialogue choices, which route to get, and more!

Previous Chapter	Next Chapter
Chapter 16: Sleep, My Friend	Chapter 17B: Of Lords and Lineages (Benedict) Chapter 17R: A River of Tears (Roland) Chapter 17F: One Last Request (Frederica) Chapter 17S: Those of Aspiration (Golden Route)

How to Get Serenoa's Golden Route

Do Not Use the Scales After Meeting All Conditions

Chapter 17 is the point where the story will branch into different routes leading to their own respective endings.

Later on in the chapter, you will be prompted if you want to use the Scales or think of another way, which will only appear as an option if you have met all the conditions in the previous chapters.

If the game proceeds to a Voting scene, then you may have missed one of the flags for the Golden Route.

However, if two options appear on the screen, do not use the Scales and instead choose the dialogue 'There must be another way!' instead.

Serenoa will then ask himself a few questions, and it is required to choose the following answers:

Answers to Unlocking the Golden Route
Greet them with the Wolffort demesne's wIldfire? Might Lord Svarog be the key? We can expose the truth hidden within the Goddess's statue. They're of the Consortium.

Choosing these answers will lead you to a couple more chapters until you reach the Golden Route's ending!
Chapter 17S: Those of Aspiration Story Walkthrough

Chapter 17 Objectives

If Griefs Could Passions Move Objectives

	If Griefs Could Passions Move Objectives
1	The chapter opens with Serenoa and his allies unsure about their next move after discovering the salt crystals inside the Grand Norzelian Mines.
2	After the cutscene, you will be sent to the World Map. Main Stories unlocked: Central Aesfrost, Twinsgate, Hierophant's Palace
3	Proceed to Central Aesfrost to hear the rumors of Hyzante forming an army against Glenbrook.
4	Proceed to Twinsgate to see Gustadolph rallying his men by the Twinsgate entrance to announce his plan to subdue Glenbrook and seize the mines once more.
5	Proceed to the Hierophant's Palace to see the Saintly Seven planning to take out Glenbrook upon discovering the existence of salt outside the Source.
6	Afterwards, you will be sent to the World Map. Main Story unlocked: Castle Wolffort
7	Proceed to Castle Wolffort to hear about the decisions of Roland, Frederica, and Benedict. Main Story unlocked: Castle Wolffort
8	Proceed to Castle Wolffort and make a decision as to whose belief you will side with. Persuasion Phase: Castle Wolffort
*	Your choice during this chapter will determine the ending you will get. It is highly recommended to save first before persuading anyone.
10	After the vote, Serenoa will announce whose convictions everyone should align with. End of Chapter 17: If Griefs Could Passions Move

Key Interactions

Wolffort Soldier Interaction

Where to Find	Talk to the Wolffort Soldier
Prompt	Choices and Effects
My wife gave birth to our first child not a few days ago...	You are a father before a soldier. It is your duty to protect your own house before that of Wolffort. (Increases Morality)
I will not force you to march with us. I ask only that you act according to your own convictions. (Increases Liberty)
We must pull together if we are to emerge victorious. I ask that you see us through this final battle. (Increases Utility)

Servant Interaction

Where to Find	Talk to the Servant
Prompt	Choices and Effects
...Just between you and me, Lord Serenoa, what do you make of their plans?	I believe that Benedict plans to use Aesfrost's ideals of freedom ascent to the top of all Norzelia. (Increases Liberty)
I think Roland intends to put his personal feelings aside to bring peace and equality to everyone. (Increases Utility)
Frederica's wish is a human one. She desires to liberate those who have been cruelly oppressed. (Increases Morality)

Chapter 17 Voting Phase

Character Convictions

Conviction	Character
Frederica's Vision	Frederica
Roland's Stand	Roland
Benedict's Strategy	Benedict
Undecided	Geela
	Anna
	Hughette
	Erador

How to Get Frederica's Route

Convince the Following Characters:

Character	Reasoning
Geela Breisse Conviction: Undecided	Place your faith in Frederica's vision. Pick the first choice

Character	Reasoning
Hughette Bucklar Conviction: Undecided	Place your faith in Frederica's vision. Pick the first choice

Character	Reasoning
Erador Ballentine Conviction: Undecided	Place your faith in Frederica's vision. Pick the second choice

Do note that results may vary depending on Serenoa's Conviction.

Chapter 17F: One Last Request Story Walkthrough

How to Get Roland's Route

Convince the Following Characters:

Character	Reasoning
Hughette Bucklar Conviction: Undecided	Stand with Roland. Pick the first choice, followed by the second choice

Character	Reasoning
Erador Ballentine Conviction: Undecided	Stand with Roland. Pick the first choice

Following these steps will result to a tie between Roland and Benedict's stands, making the final decision to be made by the player. That said, choose Roland in order to follow his route.

Do note that results may vary depending on Serenoa's Conviction.

Chapter 17R: A River of Tears Story Walkthrough

How to Get Benedict's Route

Convince the Following Characters:

Character	Reasoning
Anna Pascal Conviction: Undecided	Assent to Benedict's strategy. Pick the second choice

Character	Reasoning
Erador Ballentine Conviction: Undecided	Assent to Benedict's strategy. Pick the first choice

Character	Reasoning
Geela Breisse Conviction: Undecided	Assent to Benedict's strategy. Pick the second choice, followed by the first choice

Alternatively, you can follow the guide for Roland's route as well, but choose Benedict's side instead once given the opportunity to break the tie.

Do note that results may vary depending on Serenoa's Conviction.

Chapter 17B: Of Lords and Lineages Story Walkthrough

Triangle Strategy Related Guides

Previous and Next Chapters

Previous Chapter	Next Chapter
Chapter 16: Sleep, My Friend	Chapter 17B: Of Lords and Lineages (Benedict) Chapter 17R: A River of Tears (Roland) Chapter 17F: One Last Request (Frederica) Chapter 17S: Those of Aspiration (Golden Route)

Complete Story Walkthrough

Chapter 1
A Young Hawk Soars
Chapter 2
To Arms, Brave Warriors
Chapter 3 Part 1
Whither the River Flows
Chapter 3 Part 2
A Land of Snow and Ice (Aesfrost Route)						A Land of Sand and Sun (Hyzante Route)
Chapter 4
A New Dawn
Chapter 5
Encroaching Darkness
Chapter 6
Remember Me
Chapter 7 Part 1
A Soul Upon the Scales
Chapter 7 Part 2
Not a Word, My Friend (Protect Roland)						Fate in Flames (Surrender Roland)
Chapter 8 Part 1
The Weather Vane						Weather the Storm
Chapter 8 Part 2
Sleep with One Eye Open (Accept Telliore's Proposal)			Parting Ways (Reject Telliore's Proposal)			As the Earth Rages (Fight Sorsley)			In the Eye of the Storm (Attack Aesfrost)
Chapter 8 Part 3
Light and Shadow						Of Hearts, Words, and Deeds
Chapter 9 Part 1
Dwindling Light
Chapter 9 Part 2
March of the Smugglers (Transport the Illegal Salt)						To Desert's End (Report the Illegal Salt)
Chapter 10 Part 1
Beneath a Frigid Sky						In the Shadows of Suspicion
Chapter 10 Part 2
A Treacherous Soul (Reveal Roland's Identity)			Enter the Arena (Keep Roland's Secret)			The Carelessness of Men (Find all Evidence)			Ask Me Naught (Incomplete Evidence)
Chapter 10 Part 3
The Voice that Calls Us						The Reward for Betrayal
Chapter 11 Part 1
Oppressions Under the Sun
Chapter 11 Part 2
The Bloodstained Conscience (Deliver the Roselle)						To the Bitter End (Defend the Roselle)
Chapter 12
Defiance and Despondence						In the Still of the Night
Chapter 13 Part 1
Our Time Has Come
Chapter 13 Part 2
Waves of Change (Destroy the Dam)				Time to Say Goodbye (Infiltrate the Castle)				Born of Strife and Sadness (Destroy the Bridge)
Chapter 14 Part 1
A Steep Cost				Vengeance Burns Within Me				For You, My Heart
Chapter 14 Part 2
Glory Shall Find You
Chapter 15 Part 1
A Banner's Worth
Chapter 15 Part 2
When Our Paths Part (Return to Wolffort)			Were I King (Remain in the Crown City)			In the Wake of a Dream (Travel to the Rosellan Village after Delivering them in Chapter 11)
						The Trot of Thieves (Travel to the Rosellan Village after Defending them in Chapter 11)
Chapter 15 Part 3
Fate
Chapter 16
Sleep, My Friend
Chapter 17 Part 1
If Griefs Could Passions Move
Chapter 17 Part 2
Of Lords and Lineages (Benedict)			A River of Tears (Roland)			One Last Request (Frederica)			Those of Aspiration (Golden Route)
Chapter 18									Chapter 18 Part 1
Harden Thy Heart			Begone, Shadow of Sadness			From the Abyss			Of Fire and Blood
									Chapter 18 Part 2
									Bound by Sorrow
									Chapter 18 Part 3
									For Freedom
Chapter 19
Wheresoever Passions Lead			A Dream in Winter			Hold Fast to Courage			The Fortress That Is Faith
									Chapter 20
									No Turning Back
Final Chapter
Dance of the Automaton			The Bell Tolls for No One			Blessed Freedom			For Norzelia