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Fatalis Counterbuilds and Counter Skills

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This is a guide to countering the Fatalis in Monster Hunter World (MHW) Iceborne. Read on to learn about Fatalis' Weaknesses, skills that counter them, and recommended setups.

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Fatalis Best Counter Weapons

Best Weapons Against Fatalis
checkmarkAlatreon Weapons Are Extremely Effective
checkmarkSwitch Axes are Highly Effective
checkmarkWeapons With Blocks Are Also Useful
checkmarkThe Legendary Ghillie Mantle

Alatreon Weapons Vs Fatalis

Fatalis sports a weakness to Dragon element and Alatreon weapons are king when it comes to Dragon Elemental weapons. The alatreon weapons can provide the greatest damage output you can possible ask against Fatalis (not including the fatalis weapon itself which can deal more).

Switch Axes ZSD

The Switch Axe can spam ZSD against Fatalis' Head. This can result in a pretty fast Horn Break especially if the Switch Axe user has 3 partbreaker skills in their kit.
How To Use Switch Axe

Weapons with Blocking Abilities

While Mobility vs Blocking abilities has always been a personal preference, the ability to block can potentially save mispositioned allies against Fatalis' cone attack. Its cone breath can be blocked by small pillars and players that block the attacks, this can be used to save allies that have no pillars to hide on.

The Ghillie Mantle's Instant Hide Ability

The Ghillie Mantle is more commonly used during expeditions and endemic life capturing but in the Fatalis fight, it shines (or camouflages) best. The Fatalis AI will continuously attack its target, when it attempts to target you and you use the Ghillie Mantle, it will switch to a “looking for target” state. This is especially useful in Multiplayer since you can use the Ghillie Mantle to hide while providing a window of opportunity for other players to attack

Ghillie Mantle

The Ghillie Mantle Cannon Opening Strategy

For this strategy to work, you'll need the Ghillie Mantle and a Level 2 Heavy Artillery skill. Use the Mantle then head into the battlefield, load all the cannons then aim the rightmost cannon 1 time to the right and the left cannon 3 times to the right. Use the right cannon then take the Fatalis Roar, after recovering, immediately go to the 2nd cannon and fire it. All 10 cannonballs will hit the Fatalis and the 6th Cannon will stun Fatalis providing for a huge 4500 damage and a window to wound and damage Fatalis' head.

Fatalis Best CounterSkills

Best Weapons Against Fatalis
checkmarkFire Resist (Must be over 20)
checkmarkPartbreaker to destroy Fatalis' Horn
checkmarkA maxed out Heavy Artillery Skill is highly recommended too
checkmarkTool Specialist too for more Temporal Mantle up time
checkmarkClutch Claw Boost skill for light weapons

Fire Resistance

Fatalis has strong firebreath attacks. While it is possible to survive one lethal attacks with Felyne Moxie, the burn damage of Fatalis' fireballs will kill you soon if your fire resist is below 20. Having more than 20 fire resist is highly recommended to improve your survivability, it also allows you to survive Fatalis' fire attacks if you fail to break its horn.

Partbreaker

One of the main goals of this fight is to ensure that Fatalis' horn gets broken during the late stages of phase 2/ early stages of phase 3. This can provide a huge window of opportunity to deal free damage AND weaken Fatalis' fire attacks. Always focus on the head whenever possible!

Heavy Artillery Skill is Recommended For Machinery

While the Heavy Artillery Skill doesn't affect the Dragonator, it works wonders for the Roaming Ballista and the Cannons. The cannons, in particular, will down the Fatalis after hitting it with 6 cannonballs (solo) while having heavy artillery 2 up.

Tool Specialist is a Must Have

No matter what mantles you're using, the Tool Specialist is surely going to make a huge impact when fighting against Fatalis. The Temporal Mantle, in particular, is a must-have against the black dragon to avoid those fatal attacks and give you the confidence to dive into the fray.

Clutch Claw Boost to Easily Wound the Fatalis

The Clutch Claw Boost has 2 effects, it can either make light weapons instantly wound a monster with one Clutch Claw attack, or make heavy weapons drop monster ammo after a single Clutch Claw attack. Both effects are highly recommended but it is more important for light weapons since wounding Fatalis is pretty much, a requirement to take down the massive beast within the allotted time.

Fatalis Best Counter Skills List

Hunter Skills

Skills Reason it's good
Health Boost Necessary to survive most of Fatalis' attacks
Fire Resistance Same Reason with Health Boost but can also potentially block fireblight
Heavy Artillery Great for the Cannon Starter and the Roaming Ballista, together, they can chunk around 20k damage from the Cannons and Ballista alone.
Part Breaker Must Have to break Fatalis' Head/Horn.
Tool Specialist To Maximize the Uptime of your Mantles.
Divine Blessing Ignoring damage from a single hit from Fatalis is huge.
Clutch Claw Boost Instantly wounding the Fatalis with light weapons or dropping Dragon Pods is highly recommended.
Blight Resistance If you don't wish to slot in fire resistance skills or it is impossible to reach 20 fire resist defense, opting for a maxed out Blight Resist can also save you from Fatalis' Fireballs.
Dragon Attack More damage.
Critical eye More damage.
Agitator More damage. If Fatalis isn't enraged 100% of the time, the fight will highly likely end in failure. Always force Fatalis to the ground and slam him to the wall!
Weakness Exploit More damage, its value rises when focusing the Fatalis' wounded head.
Critical Boost More damage.

Palico Skills and Equipment

Skills/Equopment Reason it's good
Paralysis Weapon Provides a huge window to attack Fatalis for free. Highly recommended to equip this to your Palico at the start of the fight.
Sleep Weapon Same with Paralysis weapon. Swap this out during Fatalis' Phase 2. If lucky, you can make Fatalis sleep when Dragonator is up for a free 15% of Fatalis' Health as damage!
Vigorwasp level 11-15 Gives you an extralife to continue fighting. Swap this out once the revive has been used or it loses its value.
Meowlotov Cocktail Deals more damage to the Fatalis.Swap this in once the Vigorwasp Revival has been used.
Plunderblade If you wish to craft the Fatalis Armor, we highly suggest going for the Plunderblade. While its head and torso will be hard to craft due to the Evil Eye material, the other armor pieces will be easy to craft even with just stolen materials from the Plunderblade.
Plunderblade If you wish to craft the Fatalis Armor, we highly suggest going for the Plunderblade. While its head and torso will be hard to craft due to the Evil Eye material, the other armor pieces will be easy to craft even with just stolen materials from the Plunderblade.

Felyne Kitchen Skills

Skill Reaon it's good
Felyne Safeguard One additional Cart. It is a must have especially when hunting in groups.
Felyne Insurance One more Faint for 5 faints total (7 faints during the Fatalis special assignment)
Felyne Moxie The reason why 20 Fireresistance/ Blight Resistance is recommended. This allows you to survive one lethal attack (similar to the guts skill). If the attack that caused Moxie to trigger is a fire attack, the fireblight will kill you before you can even get up.

Recommended Builds Against Fatalis

Base Sample Setup To Counter Fatalis

Weapon Decorations
Dark Claw "Demise" Tenderizer Jewel 2 x2
Armor Decorations
Head Brachydium Helm Beta + Expert Jewel+ 4 x2
Expert Jewel 1
Armor Escadora Soul Beta + Attack Jewel+ 4
Dragon Jewel 1 x2
Greaves Brachydium Beta Braces Beta + Hard Defense Jewel 4
Flight/Expert Jewel 4
Waist Escadora Might Beta + Expert Jewel 1
Attack Jewel 1
Legs Escadora Sheath Beta + Challenger Jewel+ 4
Charger/Protection Jewel 4 x2
Charm Challenger Charm V none

Base Sample Skills

Skills
Attack 7 Critical Eye 7
Agitator 7 Defense 6
Dragon Attack 6 Health Boost 3
Dragon Resist 3 Peak Performance 3
Weakness Exploit 3 Flight 1
Resentment 1

A General Basic Setup

While this setup doesn't have partbreaker nor fire resistance skills. This is what a sample skillset you would be generally running against Fatalis. High dragon elemental attacks is a must against Fatalis and the other damaging skills are also highly recommended to be able to defeat Fatalis. He has a massive HP pool so optimizing your damage is more of a necessity.

Full Fatalis Armor to Counter Fatalis (Dual Blades)

Weapon Decorations
Alatreon Madness Destroyer Jewel 2 x2
Armor Decorations
Head Dragonhead Beta + Tenderizer/Evasion Jewel 4
Satiated/Expert Jewel 4 x2
Armor Dragonhide Alpha + Satiated/Expert Jewel 4
Sprinter/Evasion Jewel 4
Shaver Jewel 3
Greaves Dragonclaws Beta + Destroyer/Maintenance Jewel 4
Challenger/Maintenance Jewel 4
Waist Dragonbarbs Beta + Flawless/Maintenance Jewel 4 x3
Legs Garuga Greaves Beta + Heavy Artillery Jewel+ 4
Critical Jewel 2 x1
Evasion Jewel 2
Charm Wyrmsbane Charm V none

Fatalis Armor Skills

Skills
Critical Eye 7 Evade Window 5
Dragon Attack 5 Tool Specialist 5
Partbreaker 3 Heavy Artillery 2
Stun Resist 3 Weakness Exploit 3
Peak Performance 3 Agitator 1
Clutch Claw Boost Marathon Runner 1
Free Meal 3 Critical Boost 1

A Comfy Dual Blades Setup for Fatalis

Critical Boost and Agitator is left at level 1 to maximize the amount of skills we can slot in while also utilizing the most efficient level for these skills (critical boost gives 30% bonus at 1 level while agitator provides a free 5% affinity at level 1). QOL skills like Free Meal and Evade Window keeps your HP to the max. Free Meal in particular, works extremely well with Max Potions and Ancient Potions which can keep your Peak Performance up most of the time.

The most essential counter skills are mixed in too like Heavy Artillery and Part Breaker, if another party member wishes to use the machinery, you can swap the Heavy Artillery skill for another Sprinter to lessen the stamina consumption of Demon Mode.

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3 Anonymousover 3 years

Get that ass whooped a few times lol

2 Anonymousover 3 years

You can use the plunderblade from your palico. As soon as you have enough mats it will appear as in your armory (I did this with alatreon for the alatreon madness DB). The chance to get an evil eye with plunderblade is only 1% tho. If you want to know more about how to farm the gear there is youtube videos. Hope I could help and happy hunting!

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