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>mualani >mualani Ah,I see, almost got you serious lol, turns out that was just agenda posting. We might get back to this discussion again in the next patch, when she actually reaches the 100k DPS benchmark with Mona/Durin. Until then, enjoy yourself with her restart button gameplay. As for Nefer and Flins - who tf seriously considers a 3k DPS difference enough to make a difference between T1 and T0?
...who the hell is saying that? What is this sudden cabal of Neuvillette haters? Are y'all just suffering buyer's remorse, realizing that the Nod-Krai characters you blew hundreds of dollars on are a scam and will be obsolete the second they're not being shilled? No one is saying Neuvillette's getting upgraded or is un-creepable. He's merely just flexible and strong enough to survive until Snez and the *real* powercreep kicks in
Hi alll is this tier list accurate (Im a new player and my friend said it is so wrong)
Mavuika (140-160K DPS) Skirk (130K DPS) Varesa (120-124K DPS) Nefer (115K DPS) Flins (110K DPS but faster and with higher Frontload) Mualani (115K DPS, less consistent but the value for Speedrunning is worth-it). And let's add to equation Mavuika's Overload variant, a F2P Team (Ororon, Chevreuse, Iansan) with 120K DPS, also better than Neuvillette.
About Support Tier List, I would recommend some changes. First of all, stop the Defensive Support's overrating. Baizhu and Zhongli might be the best at Healing/Shielding, but their Support roles are that bad that they're never an option. For example, Baizhu results on a DPS Loss to Nefer (you get more damage by playing three characters than throwing Baizhu) compared to Nahida or Shinobu. Same with Zhongli on every Single Team. Nilou should be at Support, not Sub DPS. And Kazuha isn't an SS Tier.
Clorinde's Overload Teams with Mavuika (and Durin) are +100K DPS according to FlipMeAc calcs. That's Kinich/Chasca/Arlecchino level so she should be on S Tier, while Gaming's actual DPS is 99K (despite GCsim says 106K, the author note says that in practice, last plunge won't get buffed by Bennett/Xianyun). I would say Gaming is an A Tier. 99K DPS is Ayaka/Lyney level, all of them has ST Restrictions (Yelan's Sub DPS, Xianyun's one enemy restriction, or Fischl's Sub DPS for Lyney)
Kind of a mute "aha" moment when Neuv's the reason Lauma and Ineffa can prosper so strongly in the team he's "leeching" off of. He's an enabler as much as he is a DPS. There's more to the meta than numbers, but what are Genshin players if not oblivious to nuance and subtext?
Gaming in the same tier as Neuvillette and Arlecchino is a crime. Also Jean should be in the DPS category with how people are using her in stygian.
Cause Inffea does actual off field damage 🤷🏽♂️
Varesa, Flins, Nefer, Mulani all do higher numbers then him his best team with Lauma and Inffea, have Inffea doing more then 60% of the teams total damage. It’s so funny cause these calcs are all available, remember everyone numbers don’t lie but neviflop players do. 😉
Name better DPS then. Only Skirk and Mavuika deal more damage than him. Speaking of supports - he literally has like 5 entirely different 100k+ DPS teams right now, it is literally impossible for him to have support overlap problem. You are using Furina and Esco in your Skirk's team - then go for Mav/Citlali. You are using them as a separate team? Then go for Lauma/Ineffa. You don't have them? Then just use Xilonen/Kazuha and whatever sub-dps you have on your account.
I have a team of Mavuika (c0r0)(with tidal shadow),furina ,iansan,bennett and my mavuika does 450k damage burst and approx 60k after burst per hit of ca and my mavuika has 220 cd and 95 cr (with obsidian codex)
just don't think to hard about the tier list or your brain will explode
well his best team is still 113k dps which is like most of the top 5 DPS, so his team is really only behind mav, nefer, skirk. This still beat varesa's 110k DPS, on top of that neuv teams being easier to play than varesa.
Wait, why isnt Citlali in the sub dps tier? She does the same things as ineffa, summons a shield, minor buffs, deals constant off field dmg... So how come Ineffa is both sub dps and support but Citlalis just support
We being for real Glazing Gaming this hard WTH are the people making this list smoking bruh
He is falling off, but his role as a flexible, self-sustaining, hydro driver still gives him a worthwhile place compared to the hyper-niche paper cannons. Targeting won't screw him over. Theater won't screw him over. Most element/reaction checks won't screw him over thanks to his access to Freeze, Bloom, Vaporize, EC, etc. He's pretty anti-shill proof, only held back by enemies/bosses/gimmicks that are immune to Hydro and/or are flat-out gunpoint-demanding one hyper-niche paper cannon
Neuv has fallen off and people refuse to see that just because of his role as a hydro driver. All he's doing is robbing better DPS characters of their better supports. You cannot deny his damage has fallen off a cliff, especially for those without constellations on him and Furina. The entire comment section is so full of cope.
What does MAVUIKA new combo has to do with varesa's fat ass? Are you restarted? If something, then it's just a sign to place MAVUIKA higher on sup-dps list, right above yelan, who becomes more worthless with each update released, yet still stays alongside furina for some reason. I don't think it's even worth checking this so called tier-list anymore. Bye.