Arlecchino Rating and Best Builds（Page 3）Comment

>>213 delusional? every other post i stated that if you are trying to do better at spiral and need more damage sure jade and homa can "possibly" outperform vortex but that comes down to your team setup and artifact rolls, you posted the numbers they were all similar with CMS outperforming all of them by a landslide. clearly you are the delusional talker in this conversation. your numbers even show jade outperforming homa which was one of my predictions, ur vortex #s are skewed

>>209 I don't have anything against vortex tbh i actually really like the design, but saying it outperforms the 2 strongest polearms is delusional

>>211 + Thoma would be way worse in a Chevreuse Team than Bennett So you would waste a lot of atk to proc the passive of Vortex

>>209 what are you even talking about i mentioned the 1 st calcs which is Bennett Xinqgiu Zhongli

>>208 209 edit, you would need to use thoma instead of zhongli to proc chevreuse' bonuses, you are admitting to skewing the numbers with your zhongli confession

>>208 you are a einstein, if your calculations used zhongli that would lower the numbers, you would need to use chevreuse for pyro bonus, my gameplay is netflix and chill you are on some dps stuff, but if that is what you're doing you need to do it right, what you have against vortex?, do you not have vortex or something?

>>205 Wrong 1st calcs have Zhongli and Vortex is still worse than 4* options

>>204 If you need Vortex to make Zhonglis shield viable then your Zhongli build is trash

>>205 Bro can't take the fact that 4* weapons outdamage Vortex

>>202 plus your numbers are skewed, none of those parties have shielders. there are also artifact sets that further boost shielded characters for support characters like milleth and a crystallize set. CMS is her top weapon clearly, what is reason to downplay vortex as a alternative when it is superior in many ways to the competition, players just have to roll better artifacts CD primary and CD Crit substats.

you keep typing dps, they all have similar numbers, what you keep overlooking is gameplay and quality of life, all the content im running arle hp stays practically full with no deaths. arle synergizes with vortex, her increased resistances makes zhongli shield even stronger, it seems that you don't fully understand effective hp. when some people take your homa arle build in abyss & get consistently whiped out by hilichurlz you'll blame it on their ability to dodge when the truth is ur bild sux

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>>193 1 Doesn't matter if she can not fully utilise the passive of Homa, Homa is still cracked bc of the crit and she still gains some ATK. Since you will run her with Bennet (in most cases) anyways, atk is not an argument. (Even without, it is enough. Homa is also Xiaos 2nd BiS, very good on Xiangling and also strong on Raiden. Do they scale off HP? -> No. Jade is undeniably her 2nd BiS. You can't even argue about that. And who pulls for Vortex in 2024

>>198 Would be the biggest waste of pulls

>>197 you completely miss the whole point. sure jade and homa can potentially outdamage the vortex, if you are using arle to up your spiral abyss sure. but just as her banner weapon gets a special skin, vortex is the only spear that comes close to her banner weapon. i easily 36 starred the most recent spiral abyss in 1 attempt. alot of people don't have homa or jade or even vortex however, if they couldn't pull arle's banner weapon they might be able to pull vortex rerun

>>186 if you equip homa ypu only need to build crit with arle on arti same with jade spear it's just vortex gives a lot of atk which is diminishing wheb you have bennett which also gives a massive atk. In this case homa and jade wins over vortex because it's easier to balance crits than vortex.

>>186 because it's easier to balance crit/cdmg than atk%?

let's run some numbers right, staff of homa r5 let's say arle has 50k hp and you're running her low hp that is 3.4% bonus that amounts to roughly a 1700 bonus plus her weapon attack 608, those are pretty good numbers however that is assuming r5 homa & u hav r5 the kicker is it will nonetheless look ugly on arle compared to vortex as i said, also similar numbers can be obtained on vortex with less effort and more natural gameplay therefore vis-a-vis case closed