5.2 Tier List and the Best Characters as of November 2024（Page 23）Comment

>>12451 Well I wouldn't put much stock in tier list. Given outside of a few cases. Alot of how good a character is will heavily depend on what your facing. Along with team make up. Relics of course. For a character can be great in aoe, while poor in single target. Something tier list don't really focus on. Due to wanting to boil things down to simple numbers. Making most tier list rather worthless.

Do you guys know any valid tier list?

>>12448 Yeah she definitely ss tier

>>12448 One shark bite one shotted spiral abyss boss, she's broken.

super stronggggg!!!

>>12444 That is false. He was move back up after they move him down to S tier with Hu tao. They even gave reasoning that he the best at low investment. When they moved him down. Only to move him back up to ss with in 10 hours. How so? She has consistency been a good character, even with how old she is. With many new supports working rather well with her. Aging far better than main other characters.

>>12444 That is false. He was move back up after they move him down to S tier with Hu tao. They even gave reasoning that he the best at low investment. When they moved him down. Only to move him back up to ss with in 10 hours.

>>12444 Incorrect Al Haitham and Hu-Tao were both bumped down yesterday I saw it with my own eyes. I guess they reverted him back for whatever reason.

>>12439 AL Haitham was always on ss. Yall only looking at the exploration list, not the actual tier list. Be bffr...

good heavens happy for Clorinde. She's super underrated I think Gaming should go down tho, he's super good but as expensive as Xiao. Idk about Wrio C1 ive heard he's better

Eh it was only a matter of time for hu tao to go down, but they have to keep alhaitham up. Arle/Neuvi are just so busted but if they got isolated there SS tier is just "broken" tier, which is irrelevant for most casual players who dont really do abyss. I guess they realized that so it was quickly fixed

>>12438 Well going by what they posted. Revised recent changes, prioritizing current relevance but also investment required in comparison to other characters in the same niche. Hu Tao specifically is currently competing with Arlecchino as the Pyro carry, who is more self-sufficient and less expensive. They clearly change their method. So in 5.0, it way different than it was for the last few patches.

>>12439 Also to add on to things. Teams like Hu tao, Yelan Furina, Cloud retainer have been known to be used by her for awhile. For patches now, given Cloud retainer is months old at this point. So it seems old, she was ss tier for such a long time. Even with needing all these characters. Only to now be s tier. Not due to her being worst or others getting better supports. Just now team cost is a issue. Like why didn't they change things sooner? If this was their reasoning?

>>12438 Well I think the thing is. They didn't make any statement as to why they change their mind about Alhaitham. While Hu tao. they left as is. Which can make things seem confusing. Like wait. Didn't they state he was still the best at low investment. When they move him down to s. now he ss again for reasons. Like what is their reasoning? Seems like if they explain themselves clearly. it would go over better.

>>12436 im pretty sure investment is one of their main criterias. which i think is why alhaitham is still there even though a bunch of S-tier characters clearly outdamage him or his teams. Like Neuvillette/Arle DPS is actually not that super high in comparison to other 5-stars, but they're just so easy to use to the point that you don't need much to do their job

>>12435 well a better case would be. She can out damage one of their ss tier characters, depending on the context. Arlecchino is not out right better than her. Which one is best, depends on many factors. Like what is the fight. Aoe, single target? What are the teams. It like are we taking into character power at their max or are we taking into account the cost of their teams. They need to update the detail of their tier listing. If it about team cost and not just big number.

>>12422 Well nothing on this tier list goes, oh hey. This character need costly teams to get the best performance. That why we move them down a tier. Like they should update their tier listing, if it not going to be just about big number damages but also how costly it is to get a character up and running to reach their max damage performance. In terms of team mates and not artifacts.

YO, THERE IS NO WAY U GUYS PUT HU-TAO AT S TEIR WTF DID SHE DO, PLZ PUT HER BACK ON SS TIER

>>12430 Honestly it's been actual years since I bothered to check. Also was the assumption that each hit reliably lands, and that 100,000 is a consistent number over all hits? Now having just gone and watched a C6 Ayaka with 500 crit damage deliver a reliable 16360 per strike to a mob of level 90 opponents. If your Ayaka is in fact a C6 beast with cracked artefacts, a best team and you have an example of her pulling off a of a 2 mill Burst in abyss. I will happily concede she's got potental.

>>12430 Honestly it's been actual years since I bothered to check. Also was the assumption that each hit reliably lands, and that 100,000 is a consistent number over all hits? Now having just gone and watched a C6 Ayaka with 500 crit damage deliver a reliable 16360 per strike to a mob of level 90 opponents. If your Ayaka is in fact a C6 beast with cracked artefacts a best team and you have an example of her pulling off a of a 2 mill Burst in abyss. I will happily concede shes