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Where is king dedede?
He's in A tier
steve
Y no link on tier list
There is no way Steve is the best character in the game right now. He has some good wins for sure but Top of S tier? Hell nah. Once more people become familiar with the matchup he’ll go back down to A or B. A lot of high level Steve wins I’ve watched, the opponent just kind of let him set up instead of applying pressure.
id personaly think that byleth should be higher especially above inkling since the last few patches nerfed inkling so hard almost all inkling mains dropped her and isabel should be higher than bottom teir ive never heard anyone mention isabel being so bad so i feel like its out of place to put her next to little mac and gannon when isabel has got something (i could be wrong on isabell) i imagine inkling to be somewhere like mid low teir after seeing global competitive rankings and the nerfs
Easly
Personally, Roy is a GREAT CHARACTER, However Pyra & Mythra are some what just better versions of him. Plus Steve has a very easy time combo if & with a easily gimp able recover I personally think A+ seems fine (plus he is easy, however this is regarding perfect play.) :)
You're right
wait nvm switch pika with roy he’s good but he doesn’t have the results you need like roy does
Why isn’t roy S tier? top A+ tier is pretty good but he deserves better, on one hand low skill level players have fun and easy victories with the b neutral and dancing blade, ane high skill players can go ham on those aerials. think he should be right below pikachu in S tier. Also is byleth rated so low just bc most of us hate him for being fe charachter #38474739 or is it the slowness of his attacks
the hell is story mode
although I am also an Kirby main, but I think that you shouldn’t be bias.
I wish that was the case
Luigi needs to be higher than mario
They're just OP, bro. Pyra/Mythra is CLEARLY superior to Steve, though. MUs, gimmicks, everything but results. Also, Steve might be fun to play, but Pyra/Mythra is still more fun. Who thinks Pokemon Trainer isn't fun to play, huh?
that doesn't answer my question
wish bayo was better ut not sm4sh broken but like better
It's mostly because in those games there were a.) not many viable stages in those games, b.) no option to turn off hazards. In 64 dream land is the only stage that can't be heavily abused for its gimmick.
Why dream land is baned in ultimate and legal in 64 melee brawl 4 when the hazard is activate?