2.6 Tier List and the Best Characters as of November 2024（Page 36）Comment

>>3915 fr everyone knows how unreliable that guy is. People should just go for 2 and call it day cause unless a team is reliant on that unit (FUA team but if you use rm instead of Robin then you don’t really need him in it as much) then you won’t see the difference. I don’t when I use Loucha and Huo Huo with DHIL.

For the team to work at its best yes you would need Topaz and Aventurine on their signature (no need for eidolons, they provide the debuffs he wants in that state) but Aventurine can get away with trend if anything. Also I find it stupid that you’re arguing with signature when all units need that for 0 cycles lol.

Personally I find him better than Fu xuan already. Works in better teams, most future units want him, doesn’t key your team take a single spec of dmg and is the best for SU expansion.

>>3922 no, just their signatures is enough for a 0 cycle. Aventurine was doing 20% of the work with 4pc knight and 2pc belabog. Imagine how much stronger it would be if they gave him his BiS for that team lol

>>3922 I guess you didn't read the word "Robin", but well nothing I can do for that

>>3915 Imagine listening to a guy who pretty much steals what other people at CN say about a unit, he just playsback one of those CN unit deepdives and then is like "So uhhh yeah this is it guys! content!" it is ridiculous, as for Luocha he is a bad pull because he's only a healer the other sustains just do something extra and your account doesn't even need more than 2 of these sustains.

>>3921 Nice joke him a main dps lmao, a unit hitting for poop damage aint gonna be a main dps, robin won't even save his damage, and the paring of him and robin other than in a full FUA team is a side grade to most teams at best. And for the full FUA team to work u need e1s1 on topaz minimum. And all of their sig, atleast robin can get away with not running a sig lc.

Aventurine is officially better than FX, once Robin drops Aven going to be main dps tier lol

>>3919 *dmg of his own

It’s generally because is follow ups proc Numby more often while also giving robin more energy (the reason she has such a high cost is cause when using this team her ult has 100% uptime) and also applying half the debuffs ratio will need. This is all while doing and of his own. This isn’t to glorify him btw, I still think you should just pick 2 cause I agree with the whole “not much difference” except when it comes to this team cause you will see one with others.

>>3917 actually yes, aventurine apparently brings in 20% (and possibly a bit more) of the premium follow up team (ratio/topaz/robin). You can actually see a 0 cycle showcase of the 2.2 MoC with that team and the fact is, Aventurine is on a full sustain set and ornament so he could be doing a lot more and yet that build was enough for a 0 cycle in both sides. Not that 0 cycles prove anything but you usually won’t get it with a sustain instead of a third/second harmony meaning he helps a lot.

>>3910 I guess that makes sense, but it doesn’t necessarily apply to Aventurine right? Topaz in general just needs to be paired with a FUA and the sustain can be whatever. Aventurine proc more FUA wouldn’t change much unless those FUA are so frequent topaz can clear a cycle earlier. For Robin I agree, generally if you plan to play her in a team with no FUA dps then Aventurine will greatly help out but it’s not like she needs it.

>>3913 exactly. There is literally no difference in their performance lmao. People should just pick the ones they find the most comfortable to pair with their dps or the ones they like the most character wise.

>>3914 who listens to mister Pokke lol? More than half the fandom doesn’t trust him, and frankly they shouldn’t. Putting a 1/10 for loucha when both he and Huo Huo clear in the same amount of cycles? And for the cleanse, you’re exaggerating the need for it a lot. Fx has been the most used sustain despite hers being worse then hh and loucha and Aventurine sure isn’t having any problems. Doesn’t help that loucha and hh only have a 5% difference most of the time in usage.

>>3912 yes, that's why mr pokke said huohuo is the best sustainer

Sustains are just not so picky unlike DPS and supports, you only need two sustains to beat the game, so just pick two you like and use them, they're all good enough. If you want to speedruns on the other hand, you probably shouldn't even use a sustain, I don't know what part of this logic you Luocha haters can't understand. Hating people don't make you better so why bother😚

>>3911 By this logic HuoHuo is better than FX and Aventurine all every other sustain

Again with the sustains. You guys do realize it doesn’t matter right? Either way you’re gonna need 2 for your 2 teams so it still doesn’t matter much on who’s better. “Save for this sustain instead” they’ll still need a second one and difference is barley noticeable if the team isn’t reliant on a specific mechanic to work faster (like for example with Topaz, you’ll see a small difference cause more FUA means more numby attaks or robin for faster ult).

>>3908 The best healer, just slap him anywhere and your team is NEVER dying XD