Ben is so Meta at perfect defense assists, just press spacebar when he's off-field as the gold-star effect attacking you. He will land Fire attacks that can do Anomalies and Disorders very easily. Like comboing with Yanagi's electric attack. Another positives is he also can Daze with is slow but Brutal attacks.

Perfect counters show its golden outline aura on Ben if you parry at the right time. You'll hear a ringing sound effect before releasing the hold-skill.

Ben is Meta brute and Stun king

He may be a slow, heavy attacker. Ben do CAN hit Heavier Daze damage gauge as different as Lycaon's fast Daze damage.

>>17 so as you

hes dog shit

I would say that he is comfortably S tier and not however low he currently is. He gives free 16% crit rate, deals extremely non-negligible damage, has very heavy daze, and is a fun, unique character for Hoyo. If you play him in a quick-swap team, he will shine, and it avoids his negatives like his slow speed and lumbering attacks. The main downside to other supports will be his lack of non-artifact attack buff and/or resistance shred, and his attacks can sometimes push enemies away.

>>14 4-pc proto punk is a good set for Ben

4-pc proto punk seems like a must now for discussion his best disc builds

>>12 True, but temporary attack buff when shielded and lack of everything else but ADV Def. But still Big Cylinder has it all for Ben's Base Def and additional crit when being attacked before using counter skill.

Bunny band is not on the list ? Much better than Identity - Base W-Engine ...

This bear is a perfect-assist meta... I have fun parrying with this bear and koleda combo! ^^

He's pretty much like Captain America. But a lot slower and a lot bigger.

>>8 See this guy understands

Ben is NOT S tier, get him on SS where he belongs. This bear is a king among men

>>4 He is definitely NOT SS tier.

Bro at C2 usually outdamages my built Ellen and Soldier 11 with minimal kitting, or will push me into a chain attack consistently. Major downsides are his slow movement and slower attacks, but he's a key component to my weekly boss runs

I believe Ben's final Core Skill Enhancement give him 80% of his Def as Atk. Rather then 40% which looks like his base now. There might have been a buff?

anyone who puts him in below ss tier must not be looking at the character

imho he is very respectful if use him for chains and quick assists, he counters solid, has decent damage (atk + def), soaks damage with his skill like bullet-sprays which is hard to avoid, and also his personality quite shines